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Regulus

Regulus

Why do people play him so much? He's not that great. I've seen people choose him even though it's bloody obvious that the matchup is terrible, and his synergy is horrible with certain combinations. Anyone else agree?

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Reply #26 Top

for every ranged attack the procc chances are reduced for procs on hit. this can be seen in the lua scripts. this has been explained here in the forums several times. for the poisoned dagger the chance for the proc is reduced to 13% for regulus, torch bearer and QoT as they all three hit with ranged attacks. i don't know if it rpocs from the rooks shoulder attacks.

 

edit: it does not matter if regulus is in flight mode or not (meaning angelic furry), as he allways is shooting it is allways only a proc chance of 13%.

Reply #27 Top

@morpheas: sure he can beat any ub in 1vs1 with that strat because he can kite you. you cannot catch up and you cannot run, except you teleport. with maim, dagger, swift ankhlet as favor and boots you can control the 1vs1 fight, although it takes quite long and the ub should get help in that time.
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LOL! dude how can u get 2 favor items? dagger AND swift anklet?

First of all either u will have dagger and slow the beast to hell, or swift anklet and go back and forth attacking the beast.

With both favor items you can kite. If the enemy beast sucks ofc. few people are so stupid to NOT take spit with ub when there is a reg in the enemy team.

That said, I only need to spit reg 2 times (7 sec cooldown) and then i can chase him past the towers.

Btw.... 13% is not much beast wont let him attack for that long to have the slowing effect on.

Reply #28 Top

damn i cannot see morpheas post. damn even a forum software they are not capable of doing right... slow and buggy. X|

 

edit: the posting helped

morph, i didn't ment to take both at the same time. you can go either way, although taking ankhlet is the better and safer way.

spit won't help you. if the reg gos on furry + maim + mines, taking favoring hp equip (armor is useless) he will easaly outdmg your spit. of course this starts to work after level 4. before that the regulus won't have the equip and skills needed.

you can chase the reg so far you want, you want get him fast enough if he does it right. just turning back as soon as you try to catch him, imediatly attack again as soon as you turn back... quite boring i find, but it works.

later on, together with mines you are screwed faster than you can say "gotcha" if he keeps up this tactic

 

edit: just as a side note: of course if you build your ub purly to destroy reg you can do that. you need to take the ankhlat as favor, boots from the start on, and early some mana items. but who will do that as it sucks for the rest? only in a one on one yuo would chose that knowing what the regulus plans.

Reply #29 Top

@CelMare

First of all what does "proc" means? lol

Also QoT is a general, she cant get dagger. lol

I didnt mean that i will use an anti-reg build to kill regulus. I will just use my regular builds. In fact, any build i get with beast i can easily kill regulus. I can prove it to u. Take reg and lets go 1v1. me as beast. u as reg.

Then we can go a 1v1 me as reg and u as beast.

Beast will win everytime. first 15 mins = gg

Reply #30 Top

Proc is an abbreviation that refers to a chance on hit effect. so it means the triggering of the slow effect.

second, there are other items with a chance on hit in the game. and they have reduced triggering rate for QoT. i didn't reduced it to only the poison dagger!

only because you won against regs up till now does not mean they cannot beat you. most regs are so dumb to wait for you coming in melee range. if you want we can do a 1vs1, starting at level 5? or level 1 and paly it. the focus is on they 1on1 fights as i wont be able to hold flags against you. but just for edmonstration purpose, sure.

 

edit: what do you mean with first 15min? at the beginning i won't keep fighting till death because it needs some time to get the skills and equip to do what i said.

Reply #31 Top

Quoting CelMare, reply 30
Proc is an abbreviation that refers to a chance on hit effect. so it means the triggering of the slow effect.

second, there are other items with a chance on hit in the game. and they have reduced triggering rate for QoT. i didn't reduced it to only the poison dagger!

only because you won against regs up till now does not mean they cannot beat you. most regs are so dumb to wait for you coming in melee range. if you want we can do a 1vs1, starting at level 5? or level 1 and paly it. the focus is on they 1on1 fights as i wont be able to hold flags against you. but just for edmonstration purpose, sure.

 

edit: what do you mean with first 15min? at the beginning i won't keep fighting till death because it needs some time to get the skills and equip to do what i said.
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Anyway QoT cant get poisoned dagger.

I meant this;

You could say that reg vs beast late game is unfair cause when giants come and its all about cap locking portals beast has an interrupt (foul grasp) so reg will lose for sure. So a 1v1 beast vs reg is unfair imo.

So the game should count only before the giants come. If you are winning until then with reg i will concede.

What do u say? shall we test it?

edit: i have sent an e-mail to SD about the database error. but lets talk more in game. lol are u available now?

Reply #32 Top

morph, i never said qot can get dagger! i put her in the list of ranged demigods for the explenation of redeuced proc-rate for ranged attacks.

 

i don't of late game. but i need at least one moint in maim, furry and scope before i can start doing the tactic i talked about. one or two hp items are also needed against your spitting. in a real 1on1 situation this wont work because as reg i would get less money and war rank than you, not controlling the flags.

hence i mentioned probably starting with level 5 and a bit more money. but maybe it works out even on normal conditions. aynway... we can test it.

but i am not at home now, still at work. have to correct the homework of my students here and other stuff.

 

EDIT: wait you mean wiing the match? no, this would be hard playing as reg vs ub. i am not used to doing 1on1. i though you talk about winning a fight, not the whole match. an one on one match is bad for reg as he cannot defend the flags for some time and will be behind ub in money and war rank. but this was not the situation that was talked before. we talked about a 3vs3 game were reg meets ub in 1on1, if reg can beat there ub. and with slow, mines and wings of course he can easaly kill the ub... given some time ;)

Reply #33 Top

well reg cant beat ub 1v1 whatever the situation. But lets try just one fight. not a whole match.

Starting level 5 high gold. concede under 3 minutes. Game wont count.

What do u say?

Reply #34 Top

as i already said. i am ready for some tests. don't care about the three minutes. but you have to wait till i am at home.

Reply #35 Top

I think Regulus is a good demigod, and not the worst one :

1 - Regulus is really fun to play (who doesn't enjoy killing with snipe thinking "Take that mother knocker !" :grin: )

2 - As Morpheas said, a regulus in good hands is a very efficient demigod. I mean to make a good Regulus, the player has to always keep an eye on every demigods in the game for sniping, and ANTICIPATE his mates actions to snipe kill (ub spits before the enemy go cover into the fog, for example).

3 - Even if regulus is weak early game, when he reaches lvl 10 he's a killing machine : slowing bombs, slowing mark, slowing attacks + snipe.

4 - in big games (8+ players), in my view, a good regulus is very rentable cause they are more demigods to finish with snipe.

 

Reply #36 Top

lol nice avatar kalmah9 !! :grin:

Reply #37 Top

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Reply #38 Top

Quoting kalmah9, reply 37
thanks,

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Reply #40 Top

Quoting CelMare, reply 39
she is not naked (though i wished so ). common seen on the beach in holliday.
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Yes unfortunately she wears a bathing suit. Damn XD

Reply #41 Top

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Reply #42 Top

In my opinion, a strong minion build is almost a hard counter to reg, moral would just be overkill.

As long as you use some minimal micro so you minons are surrounding reg his aoe abitys are not good enough to kill them before taking a large ammount of damage. Without large ammounts of health stacking and priest regen, minion dps will will be able to force reg back to the towers fairly quickly and keep him under the towers allowing you to have the flag.

Reg appears to have no effective counters to this resaulting in him being forced to stay behind towers.

Reply #43 Top

imo regs mines are one of the best things there is against minions

Reply #44 Top

well, as we are talking only about two minion demigods: oak and erebus, regs mines are only a coutner to one of them, because spirits don't activate the mines ;)

Reply #45 Top

Quoting Derog, reply 43
imo regs mines are one of the best things there is against minions
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I agree, I absolutely hate using a QoT minion build against Reg.

Reply #46 Top

Quoting Makeshift-D, reply 45

Quoting Derog, reply 43imo regs mines are one of the best things there is against minions

I agree, I absolutely hate using a QoT minion build against Reg.
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That's because shamblers are slow and dumb. ^_^

Reply #47 Top

Quoting morpheas768, reply 5

Regulus OWNS in the right hands.
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Isn't this ture about every demigod

Quoting Epiphenomenon, reply 11
Here's a list of situations where Regulus shouldn't be used:

1. If your teammates are QoT and Fire TB. (No interrupt)
 
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I call bs on QoT part, I have played plenty of games well with Reg on my team

 

Quoting Makeshift-D, reply 45

Quoting Derog, reply 43imo regs mines are one of the best things there is against minions

I agree, I absolutely hate using a QoT minion build against Reg.
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sorry but why are you using a minion build with QoT, it's currently damn near impossible.

 

Reply #48 Top

Quoting Derog, reply 43
imo regs mines are one of the best things there is against minions
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Yes but but minions are cheeper and faster to replace than it is to cast mines and your minion micro has to be pretty poor to get them all hit by mines. you can only cast every 10 secs or so and damage is non lethal vs decently buffed minions.

you will only kill the leading minions at best and once they are encircling reg you can only hit about a third of them at once even less if the other player micros minions away from the mine throw.

I am theroy crafting but space your samblers out and mines will only be able to deal full damage to one of them, yes this is slighly more than minimal micro but still not that hard.

If you really want to screw reg over just spend 350g on the monitor idol and charge in with those first to blow up the mines.

Reg cannot deal enough damage to theaten enermy general without mines due to monk regen and will almost alway have to fall back behind the nearest tower.

Unless you fed with snipe at the start reg is probaly the worst demigod vs all the generals, though is rather compeditive vs non general builds. As long as you are not playing too aggesive and over extend reg is pretty easy to force back.

Reply #49 Top

Quoting heavenlysynn, reply 47




Quoting Makeshift-D,
reply 45

Quoting Derog, reply 43imo regs mines are one of the best things there is against minions

I agree, I absolutely hate using a QoT minion build against Reg.sorry but why are you using a minion build with QoT, it's currently damn near impossible.


 
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QoT sucks, but going pure bramble / minions is her strongest strategy.  Mulch is simply awsome after level 10.

Reply #50 Top

My least favourite assasin by far is reg...