Isn't Erebus too Overpowered?? He never dies!(Replay)

You didn't play that well and you were fighting total noobs.

(jk there's no replay link here) -edit- boo edited in link!

health stacking is the same for all demigods . if i were to health stack my DA with those items, i could do the same .

The main reason is bat swarm. A UB and a sedna can kill him (foul grasp followed by silence) as can a DA with shadow swap (though he would probably require team support). Pretty much always takes good teamwork to kill an erebus

Short game, kind of hard to draw conclusions from it. Generally speaking though, Erebus just has a really high damage threshold before he really starts to lose health, much higher than most DGs. That being said, I don't generally have issues crossing that threshold with UB, Rook after level 4, and Oak after level 8.

Most of the time if a game lasts to level 10 Erebus really starts to break down against oak, as the healing off of Divine Justice outpaces Bite's heal and the Penitence debuff and hastened creep waves start to tear EB down pretty fast. It's especially problematic for him when his own nightwalkers begin feeding HP and mana back to oak, I find Nature's Reckoning tears them up in conjunction with Surge since it hastens your attack and that just pushes NR over the top (NR proc kills count for Divine Justice).

UB can just outmuscle EB pretty consistently as long as he's got monk support, and Rook can generally stalemate him with a tower farm until he levels up high enough to start one-shotting minion swarms with Hammer Slam. Also God help EB if UB actually hits level 15, bite procs Acclimation every time and Putrid Flows with Ooze is going to put out 1250 AoE damage in the first 5 seconds of the fight, even full morale Nightwalkers are going to go down pretty quickly.

You were up against some pretty low DPS characters in that game. For all the talk of how crazy he is, DA really doesn't have much sustained damage... He's got one big burst every 15 seconds and Bite mitigates that pretty well, and then he flounders for the next 7 seconds while he waits on his Warp Strike, which the second bite will almost completely negate. During that whole time you've got a pack of minions wailing on him and monks healing up your HP pool which is almost always going to be larger than his, not to mention you can just when you expect burst.

So while I agree EB's extremely durable, I don't really feel this replay proves he's too durable.

I think it was been established that erebus is the best demigod, though both Oak and UB have builds that can counter erebus so they all compete at a prety even level (and level 3 shield is gamebreaking on cirtian maps).

How overpowered he is depends on wether you are comparing using teams viable in the current meta (for a 3vs3 at least 2 of LE, Oak or UB  and then you can have one of sedna, rook or and ice tb build (dont know if you can add occulas or DA here yet)) or comaring him with team made of combinations of all demigods.

In the current meta (compeditive play) with build built around being able to counter him and UV, he is good but not gamebreaking good. Vs the full range of demis with people not choosing their builds to conter erebus he will be way too overpowered.

obscenitor or anyother 'pro' premade players are you happy with the current metagame where you are can only play at most half the demigods without massively hurting your demigods chances of winning or would would you prefer all the demigods to be playerble in cirtian situations?

EREBUS is OP, no question about that. That UB is OP too, or that Oak is very strong lategame has nothing to do with that. Erebus can beat the majority of the demigods pretty consistently. Basically someone in the design team thought it would be a good idea to combine a superganker, an healing tank with teleport  fo 30 yards and mist, superb siege and push abilities, and an area stun.

What I see alot is that other dgs engage with LE even if they can't win. Some regulus waste their snipes on him, which he dodges or heals right back. LE is very tough and he can easily escape if he has mana. He's probably the best overall dgs. Very strong early on and still viable late game, although Oak and UB really shine late game.

You don't have to kill any Demigods in order to win a game on Conquest mode. In fact, there ought to be zero deaths in the highest levels of play. Whether a Demigod is unkillable or not is irrelevate to whether he is overpowered.

100% agree

That there is just plain not right, first of all dieing to put up a flag lock is sometimes expected and the death is considered worth while and also if you are harder to kill you can do risky things that other demigods would problby die trying, e.g take down a tower (using your self as the meet sheild to keep creep dps up) when you have no idea were two of the other demigods are (sorry bad example), but it is nice to get down to low hp and be gureented to be able to run away.

Rook would become much more powerful if he could batswarm 30 back to his base when he got in trouble.

Edit: but you are right its not one of the most important things a demigod should be judged on.

how do you be too overpowered? It is either overpowered or not.

If you have non ideal ballance (e.g. demigod) one of the benifits is that having overpowered factions/demigods is it simplifies the metagame (eg stuff you need to know to be good at the game).

In demigod the meta game is built around LE (and possibly UB or Oak) you should only be playing stuff that can compete against the LE in the opposing team, OAK and UG do a good job and have builds where they force LE to compete where they can have even power and it all works out reletivly even. He is too overpowered as less than half the demigods have build that can be use to compete against him (there is only 3 in my opinion, but only 2 do it well).

I dont think the language used make sence using the engish rules tought in arts college because its the internet, heavenlysynn. Erebus is more powerful than the state defined by overpowered, might be another way to put it.

I mean his health.. even in the battle, he has priests + bite. Everyone knows no other generals can beat him,, I thihnk becuase of the "instant" bite. 

And about bat swarm.... Why does it have SUCH A LONG DISTANCE AND + DAMAGE??

LIKE i said, LE has the most staying power. that means he can level up fast, means he can have more kills

Actually I find all teleports except scrolls ingame short.

"LIKE i said, LE has the most staying power. that means he can level up fast, means he can have more kills" -TB_MasteR /chrome browser

Flag control really breaks the balance, IMO.  UB/LE have outstanding flag control, combined with being fast/free tp, they wind up feeling OP compared to characters who have a hard time holding flags.  

And rook can build his own tower wall/trap around the flags.

As I said, you don't have to kill a Demigod in order to win. Certainly, you can be killed in order to help you team win, such as suiciding to lock a portal. It's easy enough to die as opposed to getting a kill. You didn't read my statement carefully enough.

not saying he is killer. He has everything. Invincible + remove negative effect (mist), damage + heel (bite), warp+Aoe (Bat swarm)

AND PRIESTS....

Wait what?

He has low health and high mana requirements, too. I'll put up Sedna against an Assassin Erebus any day.

What about a hybrid LE?  LE is definately OP.  Nerf to night crawlers would be a good step, but he still has too much staying power.

Being an Erebus player, I would definitely say he is one of the more overpowered characters. Any idiot (like me!) can pick him up and get kills. I think many people are also forgetting about his offensive capabilities, that are greatly enhanced with his army of suckers that pretty much automatically regenerates with no costs. His Bat Swarm and Bite combo is just devestating to any runners.

Every game has a strong character. Lord Erebus is that. Even as an assassin he would be a bastard to kill ><