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DG Players: Tier 1, Tier 2, and Those to be Avoided

DG Players: Tier 1, Tier 2, and Those to be Avoided

This thread has been closed by pacov - a new thread has been created here:  http://forums.demigodthegame.com/383615

 

Why create this thread?

Simply stated, the ladder is generally not the best depiction of skill, imho.  It GENERALLY tracks who plays the game the most and/or who acts like a jerk by cheating instead of who the most talented players are.  That's not to say that everyone high up in the ladder falls into this category.  So, if I were to put together my own ladder that indicated skill, I wonder how things would shake out.  Obvious hurdles being that many highly skilled individuals don't play each other.  So, this requires either the people that don't play together to play more together (my personal choice) or I have to rely from feedback from other players.

Your part if you want to participate

Who do you guys think are the best players in demigod today?  I understand that its a team game, but individual players do tend to stand out (and I also know that one great player can't guarantee a win if he has weak teammates, etc).  I'm happy to have everyone's feedback.  I'm not looking for people to jump in and flame. Just call out who you think is great or who you'd like to see fight.  Perhaps we'll get games going.  You want to flame and talk crap, your post will probably end up deleted. 

You can nominate anyone you want.  To keep this from being a list of who likes who, several individuals that are generally considered excellent at the game will moderate the list.  If those individuals generally agree, a player can be removed or promoted in the list.

I've decided on 4 categories of players and have provided descriptions of each.  Please recommend players along with the category you feel they fit in.

Tier 1 Demigod Players:

Realistically, its my belief that there are 10-30 players in this game that are tier 1 DG players (the best). Those players shine as individuals, generally with a wide variety of characters and do not depend on a specific team or teammate to do well.  They can play exceptionally in 1v1, 2v2, 3v3, 4v4, and 5v5.  These are players that do not cheat or desync games.  These are the people that you want on your team or you want to play against because you know you will get a good game.  Any player in this list or any other should currently be an active player.  

  • abuggeredhedgie/awuffleablehedgie
  • cowbuttzex
  • kalelsmx
  • GM-Janook
  • gm-magnus333
  • GM-Mcshane
  • GM-Mithrander
  • GM-NinkiCZ
  • GM-Renz0kuken
  • GM-Zen_God
  • Nomilarac
  • Orcun
  • OMG-pacov
  • Paulie Carbone
  • RAWRRRR
  • ThatGuyYoulove/ boxxy_Koush
  • trousersnake

Tier 2 Demigod Players:

These are players that don't quite currently fit into highest level of players, but are good players all the same.  Perhaps they require a specific team or can only do well in specific types of games (1v1, 2v2).  The bottom line is that they aren't quite as polished or versatile as the highest level players. 

  • 2nana
  • Alterschism 
  • Amazing_Hero (oak)
  • Archon_SAAR (regulus!)
  • Atma44x (torch bearer)
  • captnspaulding
  • Celmare
  • Darz4 (qot)
  • DD_Karebears
  • Epiphenomenon (beast)
  • Esuzu
  • eXXcentric
  • Grahf666
  • IamKira
  • _illuminati_
  • Iokke
  • irek1988/never-fuk-wit-a-oak
  • Jaws8you
  • Jona__
  • Jongalt26
  • Ke5trel
  • Kitty007
  • Kollecktir
  • Lethstang (oak + ub)
  • lifekatana
  • LuftBR
  • Maccilia
  • Naur (oak + da + reg)
  • Obiwhan
  • Ogham
  • peterdumptruck
  • prozombie
  • Shred_demon (demon assassin)
  • Soccer-mom
  • spooky_
  • STFNG
  • Teseer (tb)
  • Thundercles
  • xXxXxAchillesTGxXxX
  • Xynth
  • yeahneil
  • Zoahr

Tier 3 Demigod Players:

A third group (or list) would be everyone else. No need to list individuals...

Demigod Players that Should Be Avoided:

These would be specific individuals that clearly (and I mean clearly) cheat.  You don't get on this list unless I (pacov) am VERY convinced that you belong here.

  • AlienWarrior - This player should be avoided.  Stat exploiter confirmed by pacov.  As of 1/5/2010, this player has 34 wins and 0 losses and is ladder ranked 34.  I played a game with him in a 1v1 with him as the host.  After confirming that the player spoke English, I asked him if he would let the stats count if I beat him (there is currently a simple exploit that enables any host in a 1v1 game to make the game disappear if they don't want the stats to be kept - Also note that this player plays almost exclusively 1v1 games).  The player did not respond to my question.  As I began to tear down both sides of the player's base, he used the stat exploit and the game vanished as a result.  The player used this exploit with about 10 minutes left in the game.  Based on his stats and skill level (read: not highly skilled), this player is clearly exploiting the stat system.
  • PrizmSmurf - This player should be avoided.  Stat exploiter and poor sport confirmed by pacov on 4/1/2010.  After losing in a 2v2 matchup, PrizmSmurf said "I hope you die a long slow death of cancer.  I mean it."  Then said, "Bet you are going to enjoy watching me desync."  Then, just before the citadel went down, desynced the game. Based on his stats, he clearly does not desync games on a regular basis, but wishing cancer on someone because they beat you in a game and then committing the one offense in demigod that can get you banned (saying you are desycning then desyncing) is a bit over the top.  I suggest you avoid him. 
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Reply #1076 Top

Quoting Cowbuttzex, reply 1074
Xynth needs to be added to tier two! Can't believe he was over looked!
End of Cowbuttzex's quote

That is debatable.  He played strong with Oak in our 2 vs 2 today until he completely blew the game at the end by forcing me to port right to defend a portal against beast even after I told him in plenty of time, watch that one while I defended you (Queen) on the left.  Not only that after I died locking the right portal he just let the other one get taken.  Pretty sure any English speaking tier 2 player would've listened in that situation and not cost us the game.  Is he decent with anyone other then Oak? 

EDIT: oops double post

Reply #1077 Top

Quoting GM-McShane87, reply 1076



Quoting Cowbuttzex,
reply 1074
Xynth needs to be added to tier two! Can't believe he was over looked!


That is debatable.  He played strong with Oak in our 2 vs 2 today until he completely blew the game at the end by forcing me to port right to defend a portal against beast even after I told him in plenty of time, watch that one while I defended you (Queen) on the left.  Not only that after I died locking the right portal he just let the other one get taken.  Pretty sure any English speaking tier 2 player would've listened in that situation and not cost us the game.  Is he decent with anyone other then Oak? 

EDIT: oops double post
End of GM-McShane87's quote

He plays a lot of characters, and just because he made one mistake in that game doesn't mean hes a terrible player. I am sure you have made a mistake before too.

Reply #1078 Top

I've made probably thousands but I'm not sure there's been many times where I directly cost my team the game after I was asked to do something that would have saved it.  Also I'm not saying that he is terrible, I've seen much worse, but the criteria for tier 2 isn't just "not be terrible." 

Reply #1079 Top

Imo if he wasn't tier II worthy the game wouldn't of lasted like an hour. He certainly pulled his weight in that game and many other times I have played with him he has done very well but I can't find a damn replay :|

Reply #1080 Top

I agree he pulled his weight until the end where he blew the game in the last 5 minutes.  Does pulling your weight for 90% of a game still count?  That's where we have a disagreement.  However if I hadn't made a couple silly mistakes we wouldn't have been in position for him to lose the game like that so I'm partly to blame too. 

Reply #1081 Top

IMO, Xynth is an excellent player.

He always does cita upgrades before his gears and ports for ganks and shield whenever he can.  He has a strong Oak/UB/Reg build....DA is blah!

 

Reply #1082 Top

Does anyone know what happened to lifekatana? Oh and Ragarth?

Reply #1083 Top

Quoting GM-NinkiCZ, reply 1082
Does anyone know what happened to lifekatana? Oh and Ragarth?
End of GM-NinkiCZ's quote

no idea. 

I still don't really have any reservations about Xynth to tier 2...

edit - removed kingslet from tier 1 - he's been gone for well over 30 days.

Reply #1084 Top

5*  I think Zen_God should be added to tier 1 or 2, he is a very solid player and if you have played with him, you know that he is very skilled. Since im not tier 1 i dont think i have much business requesting someone be tier 1, but I think Zen_God is as good as most of the tier 1 players, at least from what I have seen :D    posting is nice sometimes. :borg: :banhammer: :fox:   which wins a werewolf or a cyborb?

Reply #1085 Top

cyborg.

Zen_God certainly fits into tier 2.  I'm sure its an oversight that he is not listed here.  Potential for tier 1 imo. 

Reply #1086 Top

Zoahr for tier 1 - woooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!  :dur:  

I've picked him as my new favourite since Morpheas stopped playing ^_^

He's not as noisy as Mr. Mighty Morph or does he get as annoyed at me when I'm saying shit to him, but whatever.....

Zoahr for tier 1!!!  :)

 

Reply #1087 Top

I just got back played heros-temp- and zen_god  they should def be tier 1!

Reply #1088 Top

If zen_god is potential for tier 1 then he must have got a lot better very recently  ^_^

Reply #1089 Top

Well heros-temp- should def be tier 1 he carries every game i play against him.  Why do you think hes ranked number 1.... because whoever he plays with her makes them win.

Reply #1090 Top

Quoting Jona_, reply 1089
Well heros-temp- should def be tier 1 he carries every game i play against him.  Why do you think hes ranked number 1.... because whoever he plays with her makes them win.
End of Jona_'s quote

Heros temp is ranked 1 because you only see Heros playing stacked games :)

EDIT: Oh and a certain GM members name needs to be changed to McSauce

Reply #1091 Top

^The only thing preventing him from being in Tier 1 is the fact that he can't speak English. He can't coordinate as well with other players.

Reply #1092 Top

Ive played him a lot with balanced teams =/.  The only drawback he has is like ninki says he doesn't speak english.

Reply #1093 Top

Ive played him a lot with balanced teams =/. The only drawback he has is like ninki says he doesn't speak english.
End of quote

that might be a valid point,but he doesn't strike me as tier 1.  He should be tier 2 though. 

Reply #1094 Top

Well after playing two 2v2 games with Zen_God I think he deserves to be tier 1 and I think a couple of people would agree with me.

Reply #1095 Top

Zen God is great at 2v2 not the same at 3v3.

Reply #1096 Top

Quoting Cowbuttzex, reply 1094
Well after playing two 2v2 games with Zen_God I think he deserves to be tier 1 and I think a couple of people would agree with me.
End of Cowbuttzex's quote

you are wrong.  Bullshit problems on both games with trouser dropping from vent without me knowing.  It resulted in me porting places without him, missing snipes, etc. I wouldn't object at all if you had a solid win and there wasn't some crap nonsense going on. 

As it stands, I'm not more impressed with either of you... just fugging mad that I couldn't communicate with trouser when it mattered. 


Doesn't mean he ain't qualifed... just means those games didn't show me anything other than bad connections = fail.

Reply #1097 Top

zen is pretty good.  I don't like him to know that I think he is because he has started to get cocky lately, but let's just say I no longer think I can beat him in equal circumstances 100 out of 100 times, that number has fallen to maybe 75 out of 100 times lol. 

Reply #1098 Top

Quoting pacov, reply 1096



Quoting Cowbuttzex,
reply 1094
Well after playing two 2v2 games with Zen_God I think he deserves to be tier 1 and I think a couple of people would agree with me.


you are wrong.  Bullshit problems on both games with trouser dropping from vent without me knowing.  It resulted in me porting places without him, missing snipes, etc. I wouldn't object at all if you had a solid win and there wasn't some crap nonsense going on. 

As it stands, I'm not more impressed with either of you... just fugging mad that I couldn't communicate with trouser when it mattered. 


Doesn't mean he ain't qualifed... just means those games didn't show me anything other than bad connections = fail.
End of pacov's quote

Oh well you should of said something I didn't know you guys were off vent.

Reply #1099 Top

Well one thing i know not to do now is play against u two with random 50%s on my team.

Reply #1100 Top

Quoting Jona__, reply 1099
Well one thing i know not to do now is play against u two with random 50%s on my team.
End of Jona__'s quote

Lol, it looks like cow got you with the no spit beast Jona?  You gotta be careful out there.