I thought spit was always better in the beginning? Also, why do you pump so many points into stats instead of frenzy or inner beast? I don't play UB, so I'm not criticizing, just asking.

I recommend switching stats to beastial wrath and trying out Blade of the Serpent if you have mana problems.

I don't know, in a 3v3 fight, they won't all run, plus UB is perfectly capable of giving chase.

Spit is better 1v1 because you don't attrition yourself to death, esp against generals. (Against generals, the first tick of spit causes the monk to heal all of 45 damage and then it does nothing for 8 seconds). That said, Ooze will increase monk heals to once every 10 seconds because it will waste heals on itself to stay alive.

However, Ooze level 1 is something a LOT of people underestimate and it really hurts 2v2 dogpile on HP flag at level 1. (I'm saying it's better than Spit).

That said, this is the build most people use, except they swap Level 1 and 2, get Diseased Claws @ 13 instead of Stats, Save 14 to get Acclimation + Putrid at the same time on 15. Levels 16-20 don't really matter much for 99% of games. Since most people don't like Stats I do, hence why by build isn't quite the same as most but...

Getting full Inner Beast + Unrelenting Wrath is a killer with Artifacts but impossible to do on most builds that aren't a BotS build.

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I actually don't agree with your comment about aa damage becoming more important. As armor increases from leveling, the constant damage from skills, 115 and 105 per second, seems far more important and the highest level of bestial wrath would only really increase your damage output by like ~700 (a rough estimate) and costs so much mana."

Bestial Wrath has crazy synergy with Artifacts, Inner Beast and UB's already very high DPS and attack speed. For the vast majority of the game, Spit does more damage for less mana than Wrath. This is no longer the case when you've got Narmoth + Mageslayer, for example (Akshandor really is the best).

Bestial Wrath has it's place for very late game 3v3 Portal Parties when it is literally do-or-die for the entire team. Whoever has the last man standing wins the portal, while the rest of the other team is dead, and therefore, wins the game. Bestial Wrath can be enough for just that.

However, if you're a Blood build (and you are) then you really don't have the mana for it, which is why Stats or Claws is a better choice. Post-Mortem + Plague would be better if they weren't bugged, but Uberfix is fixing that so. Soon.

Yep. Monk heals work like this:

What is my % hp?

Does a nearby demigod have less than that % hp? If so, heal them and apply an 8 second debuff to them.

Am I hurt? If so, heal myself for 200 and apply an 8 second debuff to myself.

Are there any nearby creeps at < 50% hp? If so, heal them for 200 and apply an 8 second debuff to them.

Wait 5 seconds....

AoE attacks are extremly effective against monks because there is a 3 second period where monks have heals available but can't heal their attacked demigod (and therefore don't make the "does a nearby demigod have a less than % hp" check). Hurting them or nearby creeps reduces the effectiveness of monks by 25% since they blow their heals.

Whenever you play a general v general, first you should micro both your monks onto the demigod to hurt them for 45 and make the monk blow a heal for a small amount of damage. Then you target one monk onto your enemy demigod and micro the other to attack both their monks once. Then stick that second monk back onto the demigod. The second you see their hp pop up, have one monk attack both their monks again.

BotF is like a little security blanket for everyone. It's cute.

Edit: lol, wrong abbriv.

you wont get anywhere near a tower if you cant even get past a flag

A good BotS beast should be able to beat a good blood beast, but a good BotS beast I am not. Heres a replay of me using cloud's build:

http://www.gamereplays.org/demigod/replays.php?game=51&tab=upcoming&show=details&id=109355

In the beginning I wasn't sure if I was going BotS or BotF, so I didnt get any mana pots. Thats really the only difference. I also got Narmoth's early just for shits. There was only one or two times in the game where I could've used the extra mana for a possible kill, but I decided I wanted to kill TB in the beginning . As Hedgie said, with a BotS build you can spit it up on towers everywhere, all the time. Just constant spit after spit. Which, if you play it right, should be much more effective than the early tanking abilities. At level 4, with just one spit, you completely nullify whatever advantage an enemy with BotF had over you, if you're going BotS.

Still, there's the replay. It worked well.

I support any build that doesnt use BotF. Even Yeti builds.

I hate BotF.