Minor-Issue

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The thing that really annoys me about Galciv at the moment is more or less a minor issue...

I have illustrated and uploaded it on the Apolyton Webspace (you probably must register to see it, would be kind if someone who has own webspace (not that tripod or geocities junk) could upload it to another URL)

http://apolyton.net/upload/files/AIL/Minortrading.gif

Edit: You cannot click on that link. You must rightclick it, chose properties and then copypaste the URL to a new browser window... :\

Getting from 4th in Spendpower to 1st for such a long time just for selling some techs to the minors is definitely too powerful! I wonder how they can afford that!

Change it back or make the starting minors an option to deselect please! I really don't want to play with those guys who are ruining the fun of the game by making it too easy by giving me increadible amounts of money for some few cheap techs!
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Reply #1 from Stardock Forums Top
Um, if you don't want to get that much money from the AI, don't take it from them. 
Reply #2 from Stardock Forums Top
Nah... you don't understand the way I'm thinking...

It is like that: I cannot resist exploiting them, as long as they are there, even if it takes the fun out of the game when I do so... The same goes for the tribute -1 turn bug, that I mentioned in some other threads... as long as it is there, I will exploit it. I can't stop me from doing it!

The easiest way for you to help me would be to read the number of starting minors or the minor-diplomacy-penalty from a file that you put into the data-directory... I'd even do it myself but you would not want someone foreign to fiddle around in your sourcecode, right?

I ensure you that it's really nothing personal, that I don't like the Carinoids!
Galactic Civilizations III
Reply #3 from Stardock Forums Top
Going to go with Cari-Elf on this one.

Asking a game designer to "fix" something that isn't a bug because you can't avoid doing it but think it affects your fun if you do is the definition of 'non-issue'.

Somewhere out there are thousands of players who think, "Thank the space gods!" when they come across a minor now because they'll have a chance until the minor's money runs out. But, no, they should all lose this opportunity because they ruin *your* fun.

It's a choice, use it or don't.

The 'one less payment' is a bug, it should be fixed because the player who doesn't know it works like that is at a disadvantage.

That starting minors actually have a nice bank roll is not a bug, that they will pay so much is not a bug (if you magically gave any one of the majors 4K they'd pay the same for those techs as best I can tell), that you think it ruins your fun is not a bug but a personal issue.


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Reply #4 from Stardock Forums Top
@CM: Have I ever said anything about a bug here? I am not talking about a bug, I am just requesting the option to play the game without any minors or at least make minors modable.

But, no, they should all lose this opportunity because they ruin *your* fun.
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I never said that everybody should lose this oportunity! I just want it to be possible to loose this oportunity myself!

Besides the selectors for habitable-star-rareness and galaxy size, I think there's enough space for a Numbers of minors setup ranging from 0 to a mapsize-dependant value...

You can already chose to play with only 1 major, so why not apply something similar to the minors?

And if redesigning anything is to much work, then making it modable like many other aspects of the game would be OK too! You say the minors start with 4K... well, that must've been written down somewhere in the hardcoded stuff... If it was not, I could alter it...

I don't think the other majors would pay that much because the minors imho got a huge penalty to their diplomacy-value in 1.04.59 and that's why they are willing to pay 3 to 4 times as much as a major would pay for the same stuff...

Another thing the designers could do is to make the AI-Majors exploit the minors in the same way... I mean they are supposed to play like human players and have all possibilities a human has... (+ the ability to request tribute from someone who is in the reds :notsure: ) so it should exploit the minors aswell and everything would be OK...

Edit: Um... I'd like to edit my 1st post here, but I can't... I wanted to replace "Change it back or" with "Please"... to reflect, that I don't want what Code Monkey suspected me to want... :)
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Reply #5 from Stardock Forums Top
You can already chose to play with only 1 major
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How do you do that?
Reply #6 from Stardock Forums Top
Click on the aliens pictures at the difficulty and alignment setup screen.
Reply #7 from Stardock Forums Top
i've never been able to shut off a major... clicking on the picture doesn't seem to change anything... unless I'm just not noticing it.