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To all the neigh sayers!

To all the neigh sayers!

Watch this game.

Alright sorry about this Mcshane but it needs to be known and I do owe you a rematch.

Everyone has given me so much shit about Ooze Beast being inferior to Spit Beast. Well McShane and Zen_God asked for my Ooze beast in the lobby and I obliged. I actually had a teammate I knew could hold his own in this match Rawrrr didn't let me down so I switched from rook to beast and the game started. What resulted was an intense game one of best I have ever played in. To say the least Ooze beast did not let me down.

and like I have always said, I will continue to play ooze beast until I think there is a superior build to it.

Here is the replay:

http://www.gamereplays.org/demigod/replays.php?game=51&show=details&id=122055

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Reply #26 Top

wasn't an excuse Split, merely a statement of fact.  He didn't lose and the other beast had both.  He merely countered hedgie's argument.  

Reply #27 Top

You should post up replays of when you SHOULD have spit, like the last game we just had.

Reply #28 Top

Quoting Splitshadow, reply 25



Quoting Cowbuttzex,
reply 12
excuses would come out again saying that I am not good and that this doesn't count.


 




Quoting Cowbuttzex,
reply 24

I didn't have Grofflings or Narmoths ring the entire game.






 




Cicero




Man is his own worst enemy




End of Splitshadow's quote

This has to be one of the biggest fails of trying to make me look like a fool ever!

 

Reply #29 Top

I cant figure out how to post replays nemore the site changed, but i ate cows ooze ub one game but he blames in on teeser :P.  But the game after was def epic, they freaking won by gadget healing their citadel when i almost had it down =(, then all porting to ours.  They had both favor flags, we had all portals.  We lost with their cit at 1k hp ;(.

Reply #30 Top

Quoting Jona__, reply 29
I cant figure out how to post replays nemore the site changed, but i ate cows ooze ub one game but he blames in on teeser .  But the game after was def epic, they freaking won by gadget healing their citadel when i almost had it down , then all porting to ours.  They had both favor flags, we had all portals.  We lost with their cit at 1k hp ;(.
End of Jona__'s quote

I posted the "epic" one where people actually tried and I might have to say that it was the most exciting ending to a game I have ever been in. The other game was just a joke after the first 5 minutes and I don't blame it on teseer, I never said that. We just stopped caring in that game.

Reply #31 Top

Quoting Cowbuttzex, reply 30

We just stopped caring in that game.
End of Cowbuttzex's quote

Is this an excuse? |-O

Reply #32 Top

rofl.  I think the saying is "if cow win's a game as ooze beast, there's some excuse for the other team as to why it wasn't legitimate and proves nothing.  If he loses, it's ONLY because he was ooze, not because his oak didn't buy monks, his reg didn't snipe, and his team kept feeding" lol.

Reply #33 Top

Quoting Cowbuttzex, reply 30

Quoting Jona__, reply 29I cant figure out how to post replays nemore the site changed, but i ate cows ooze ub one game but he blames in on teeser .  But the game after was def epic, they freaking won by gadget healing their citadel when i almost had it down , then all porting to ours.  They had both favor flags, we had all portals.  We lost with their cit at 1k hp ;(.


I posted the "epic" one where people actually tried and I might have to say that it was the most exciting ending to a game I have ever been in. The other game was just a joke after the first 5 minutes and I don't blame it on teseer, I never said that. We just stopped caring in that game.
End of Cowbuttzex's quote

 

But you stopped caring because you couldnt hold hp flag becuz you were ooze ub ;P.

Reply #34 Top

Quoting Jona__, reply 33


But u stopd carried because you couldnt hold hp flag becuz you were ooze ub.
End of Jona__'s quote

 

........................... there is no hp flag on leviathan.  You keep posting completely wrong things in this thread.

Reply #35 Top

Quoting RAWRRRR, reply 34

Quoting Jona__, reply 33

But u stopd carried because you couldnt hold hp flag becuz you were ooze ub.

 

........................... there is no hp flag on leviathan.  You keep posting completely wrong things in this thread.
End of RAWRRRR's quote

 

Um no

Reply #36 Top

Quoting Cowbuttzex, reply 15

Quoting Cowbuttzex, reply 12and like I predicted everyone has their heads so far up their asses that some bullshit excuses would come out again saying that I am not good and that this doesn't count.

Well I guess that was harsh let me rephrase everyone but the people that actually played that game have their heads up their asses. I guess it will just take loosing to my ooze beast for that head to work its way out of your asses because that is the only way it seems to make people understand. It took Mcshane loosing to it for him to see that it is in fact a viable build and equally effective to spit beast.

I am also curious to see if doing a mirror oak + ub match would make that much of a difference in the outcome. I am sure having a shield on your end of the game would make for more interesting fights however we did end up fighting 1v1 for many of our encounters and we both lost some and won some.

As far as blown kills go Mcshane you know that there were missed opprotunities on both teams.
End of Cowbuttzex's quote

I missed this quote earlier, true it's a viable build, as I've said before it's hard to play beast wrong as long as you ooze.  However no, it's still not as effective as spit beast. Don't forget I mentioned earlier you also lost a game vs me as beast which ended 10 kills to none but I can't post it because kalel went random and your team got double UB.  The difference in that game was jongalt missed a lot of shields and I got perfect shields from Renzo, as far as I'm concerned we are even right now. http://pantheon.demigodthegame.com/game/1337041/player/47067/

Reply #37 Top

^Can you just say that ooze beast is terrible? Then this whole conversation would be over and cow can stop using that build.

Reply #38 Top

Quoting RAWRRRR, reply 32
rofl.  I think the saying is "if cow win's a game as ooze beast, there's some excuse for the other team as to why it wasn't legitimate and proves nothing.  If he loses, it's ONLY because he was ooze, not because his oak didn't buy monks, his reg didn't snipe, and his team kept feeding" lol.
End of RAWRRRR's quote

I'm glad to see you've been converted to the ways of the no spit beast Rawrr, and Cow has an official partner. 

Reply #39 Top

no you weren't there. Magnus refused to purchase monks at the start and told me to split them over 4v4 Levi. I aptly refused because 4v4 Levi is not 3v3 Cata and it takes monks about an hour to walk to the other side of the map and if you split monks with 2 people in a lane you lose the 40 dps the monk gives you and also half the healing making it that much harder to survive.

Magnus then proceeded to get juked into going insane by a late-blood from Jaws and both him and cow proceeded to die. Magnus then blamed both their reckless deaths on me not splitting my monks. 

Later on Cow was pursuing an Erebus with 200 hp and Ninki didn't snipe.

Reply #40 Top

Quoting awuffleablehedgie, reply 39

Later on Cow was pursuing an Erebus with 200 hp and Ninki didn't snipe.
End of awuffleablehedgie's quote

I was on the same side as you so I'm surprised. In order for me to get in range to snipe I would have to walk over to the citadel from where we were. Like you said, a monk takes an hour to walk to the other side, a regulus is no faster. By the time I walk over, the eb's priests would've healed him couple of times.

If he had spit, he would've killed him without a snipe, got 3 kills without dying, and probably prevented both of them from dying without a monk anyway. I can understand why you wouldn't get spit if the other team consisted of an oak, sedna and erebus since spit doesn't affect any of them, but the other team had a TB and regulus who are both ranged so spit would've been the correct choice. If anything, even a pure spit build would've done better in that scenario.

Reply #41 Top

Quoting GM-NinkiCZ, reply 40



Quoting awuffleablehedgie,
reply 39

Later on Cow was pursuing an Erebus with 200 hp and Ninki didn't snipe.



I was on the same side as you so I'm surprised. In order for me to get in range to snipe I would have to walk over to the citadel from where we were. Like you said, a monk takes an hour to walk to the other side, a regulus is no faster. By the time I walk over, the eb's priests would've healed him couple of times.

If he had spit, he would've killed him without a snipe, got 3 kills without dying, and probably prevented both of them from dying without a monk anyway. I can understand why you wouldn't get spit if the other team consisted of an oak, sedna and erebus since spit doesn't affect any of them, but the other team had a TB and regulus who are both ranged so spit would've been the correct choice. If anything, even a pure spit build would've done better in that scenario.
End of GM-NinkiCZ's quote

I was persuing that erebus for a rediculously long time there is no excuse for you not getting a snipe off.

But anyway that game made me laugh really hard so its all in good fun.

Reply #42 Top

^What is a ridiculously long time when that game didn't even last 10 minutes.

Reply #43 Top

Quoting GM-NinkiCZ, reply 42
^What is a ridiculously long time when that game didn't even last 10 minutes.
End of GM-NinkiCZ's quote

It had to be atleast 30s worth of time

Reply #44 Top

Quoting awuffleablehedgie, reply 39
no you weren't there. Magnus refused to purchase monks at the start and told me to split them over 4v4 Levi. I aptly refused because 4v4 Levi is not 3v3 Cata and it takes monks about an hour to walk to the other side of the map and if you split monks with 2 people in a lane you lose the 40 dps the monk gives you and also half the healing making it that much harder to survive.

Magnus then proceeded to get juked into going insane by a late-blood from Jaws and both him and cow proceeded to die. Magnus then blamed both their reckless deaths on me not splitting my monks. 

Later on Cow was pursuing an Erebus with 200 hp and Ninki didn't snipe.
End of awuffleablehedgie's quote

First, from the time you hit the base of the circle on Leviathan and have to choose to go left or right it takes LESS time for monks to walk from there to either sides tower than it does from the citadel on Cataract to either side because of pathing issues.  Within 2 seconds of the game starting I said "no monk" so you would know what to do.

Second, you don't lose half the healing unless you are counting the healing of creeps.  One monk can heal 2 dg's with very near 100% efficiency.

Third, any good group of players that had 2 generals on their team would inherently understand that only one of them should buy monks while the other buys clerics ASAP.  This gives both lanes almost the exact same healing at the start while one side has an extra armor+hat for regen and can push harder.  A couple minutes into the game when the clerics are split both sides now have double the healing from split monk/cleric, who do not share the same cooldown healing dgs, on both sides and also the early advantage from early regen.

Fourth, if there was ANYONE who I thought would understand game mechanics it would be you.

Fifth, of all dg's you were sedna who has the least cause to horde monks, not that anyone else has one to begin with.

Sixth, you were generally a jerk.  When I asked for the monk and said that I would be getting clerics ASAP your exact quoted response was "no".  When I asked why, you said "I don't want to send my monk behind a tower".  Like, what does that even mean?  It would have taken less effort to click the monk and click behind the other tower than it would have to hit enter, hit N, hit O and hit enter again.

Seventh, there are maybe a couple dozen people who I think are very good at this game.  8 of those people were in that game.  If this sort of thing can happen in a game of that caliber, then the odds of it happening again and again are high with such a small community. "I really need to find a game that is less of a joke" is what I was thinking while running around dying for admittedly stupid reasons.

 

Reply #45 Top

Quoting gm-magnus333, reply 44



Quoting awuffleablehedgie,
reply 39
no you weren't there. Magnus refused to purchase monks at the start and told me to split them over 4v4 Levi. I aptly refused because 4v4 Levi is not 3v3 Cata and it takes monks about an hour to walk to the other side of the map and if you split monks with 2 people in a lane you lose the 40 dps the monk gives you and also half the healing making it that much harder to survive.

Magnus then proceeded to get juked into going insane by a late-blood from Jaws and both him and cow proceeded to die. Magnus then blamed both their reckless deaths on me not splitting my monks. 

Later on Cow was pursuing an Erebus with 200 hp and Ninki didn't snipe.


First, from the time you hit the base of the circle on Leviathan and have to choose to go left or right it takes LESS time for monks to walk from there to either sides tower than it does from the citadel on Cataract to either side because of pathing issues.  Within 2 seconds of the game starting I said "no monk" so you would know what to do.

Second, you don't lose half the healing unless you are counting the healing of creeps.  One monk can heal 2 dg's with very near 100% efficiency.

Third, any good group of players that had 2 generals on their team would inherently understand that only one of them should buy monks while the other buys clerics ASAP.  This gives both lanes almost the exact same healing at the start while one side has an extra armor+hat for regen and can push harder.  A couple minutes into the game when the clerics are split both sides now have double the healing from split monk/cleric, who do not share the same cooldown healing dgs, on both sides and also the early advantage from early regen.

Fourth, if there was ANYONE who I thought would understand game mechanics it would be you.

Fifth, of all dg's you were sedna who has the least cause to horde monks, not that anyone else has one to begin with.

Sixth, you were generally a jerk.  When I asked for the monk and said that I would be getting clerics ASAP your exact quoted response was "no".  When I asked why, you said "I don't want to send my monk behind a tower".  Like, wtf does that even mean?  It would have taken less effort to click the monk and click behind the other tower than it would have to hit enter, hit N, hit O and hit enter again.

Seventh, there are maybe a couple dozen people who I think are very good at this game.  8 of those people were in that game.  If this sort of thing can happen in a game of that caliber, then the odds of it happening again and again are high with such a small community. "I really need to find a game that is less of a joke" is what I was thinking while running around dying for admittedly stupid reasons.

 
End of gm-magnus333's quote

thats the hole thing magnus, that game was a "joke" don't take it to seriously.

Reply #46 Top

Quoting GM-McShane87, reply 38


I'm glad to see you've been converted to the ways of the no spit beast Rawrr, and Cow has an official partner. 
End of GM-McShane87's quote

 

lol just find this argument silly and I figured I'd support cow in his endeavors.  Is it the best build ever?? Debatable... But is it viable? Certainly.  I would play with his ooze beast against many people.  One game I was suuure we'd lose but we did fine... he went ooze against occ, rook, erebus, all 3 people I thought ooze beast would struggle against but did fine.

Is your hybrid the best build ever?? Debatable.. But is it viable? Certainly.  And I would play with your hybrid ub against many people as well :)

Reply #47 Top

Quoting gm-magnus333, reply 44

Seventh, there are maybe a couple dozen people who I think are very good at this game.  2 of those people were in that game.  If this sort of thing can happen in a game of that caliber, then the odds of it happening again and again are high with such a small community. "I really need to find a game that is less of a joke" is what I was thinking while running around dying for admittedly stupid reasons.
End of gm-magnus333's quote

You pressed the wrong number so I fixed it for you.

Reply #48 Top

What I find most amazing about this board is how it can go from one of the most mature and interesting communities on the net, to one of the most bitchy.

Reply #49 Top

Quoting RAWRRRR, reply 46

Is your hybrid the best build ever?? Unquestionable.. But is it viable? Certainly.  And I would play with your hybrid ub against many people as well
End of RAWRRRR's quote

You used the wrong word so I fixed that for you too.

Reply #50 Top

Quoting GM-NinkiCZ, reply 49


You used the right word but I incorrectly changed that for you too.
End of GM-NinkiCZ's quote

fixed.