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The 2nd Demigod Community Tournament - Rules and Registration

The 2nd Demigod Community Tournament - Rules and Registration

Pacov's Last Stand

Welcome to the 2nd Demigod community tournament (Pacov's Last Stand) - rules and registration thread!   


UPDATE 1:  The scheduling thread has been opened.  Please head over there and post when you are available to play:  http://forums.impulsedriven.com/399006

UPDATE 2:  A new version of uberfix is available AND is required for the tournament.  Please see here and download/install:  http://forums.demigodthegame.com/399037

UPDATE 3:  The RESULTS thread has been opened.  Please head over there to track your wins/losses/replays:  http://forums.demigodthegame.com/399047

Update 4:  Registration is now closed.  Alternates are still allowed, but no new teams will be allowed to register at this point.

Update 5:  Added ventrilo (voice chat) server information for those of you that would like to use voice chat.  It also helps in finding people that are ready to play their matches!

Update 6:  The replay commentaries/discussions thread has been opened:  http://forums.demigodthegame.com/399150.  Check this thread out for news on live streaming events during the tournament along with commentaries and video for some of the games in this tournament!


This thread will cover all of the relevant rules and registration information.  Please see below for all of the details.

The tournament began on 10/16/2010.  Please be aware that this tournament will not begin and end on 10/16/2010.  It will actually take several weeks to complete. 

Background 

In April 2010, we started our first community demigod tournament.  The tournament was 2v2 and certain demigod selections were restricted.  The tourney carried a crash prize donated by people in the community and was won by the two man team of zen_god and King_of_thorns.  For more details on that tourney, read up here: (http://forums.demigodthegame.com/380837). 

Tournament Format

  • The tournament will be played as a 3v3 round robin tournament.  Round robin simply means that there is no elimination outside of disqualification.  Your team will play each and every team.  
  • Each match in the tournament will consist of 3 total games. 
  • We will track every win and loss.  The team with the most wins is the winner of the round robin portion of our tournament.
  • After the round robin has concluded, the top 4 teams will battle it out elimination style in the best 2 out of 3 games. 

Tournament Rules

  • All matches will be played on cataract with default settings (the only exceptions being AI HP on Very High and AI Gold/XP on low). 
  • Each team will play 1 round on the light side, then 1 round on the dark side.  In the 3rd round, if each team has 1 win, the team that had the fastest win in game 1 or 2 gets to pick the side they want to be on.  If one team already has 2 wins, the team with no wins gets to pick the side they want to be on (keep in mind the following rule). 
  • The team that is on the dark side must pick their characters and ready up first.  Then the team on the light side gets to pick and the dark side does not have a chance to adjust their characters.
  • Players using oak may not use spirits to perform a citadel rush.  Any player doing this will have their entire team disqualified for that game giving a win to the opposing team. If you don't know what this terminology means, odds are you aren't citadel rushing with spirits. 
  • Players MUST form their own teams
  • One player from each game must report their stats in.  We will open up a tournament stat tracking thread after the tournament begins. 
  • To track your wins, you must do the following - post the replay at gamereplays.org.  If you have issues with gamereplays, upload the file to rapid share and provide us with a link.  One player from the winning team should do this for each and every match. 
  • Each team must complete a minimum of 2 matches (6 games) per week.  If there are extenuating circumstances, then the decision making panel will review them.  Failure to complete 2 matches per week will result in a disqualification for your team. 
  • ALL teams are required to use the version of the uberfix mod here:  http://forums.demigodthegame.com/399037

Alternates

  • Each team is allowed to have exactly 1 alternate
  • The alternate must not be participating in the tournament (either directly registered for the tournament or on a duplicate account). If it is discovered that the alternate is a player that is already in the tournament, but using a different account, all of those matches will be forfeited.
  • The same alternate cannot be used by multiple teams
  • If a team wins a cash prize with an alternate on their team, that team must determine how they will handle the prize money.  The decision making panel has nothing to do with how you choose to split up the money.

Prize 

There will be a cash prize > $600.  Jongalt will be handling the collection of the money for this tournament.  We are discussing the prize money in this linked thread:  http://forums.demigodthegame.com/398009.  We appreciate any contributions to the prize.  YOU ARE NOT REQUIRED TO PAY TO PLAY IN THIS TOURNEY. 

Here is how we will be splitting the winnings from the pot:

  • 10% goes to the team that wins the round robin
  • 50% of the balance goes to the winner of the playoffs
  • 25% of the balance goes to the 2nd place winner of the playoffs
  • 15% of the balance goes to the 3rd place winner of the playoffs
  • Participation raffle - 1 player from a team that has completed all of their games in the tournament will be entered into a random drawing after the tournament ends.  That player will receive a prize of $30 as incentive for finishing the tournament.  This money will be taken from the total cash pot before any other money is distributed by percentage.  Any player that has won a cash prize is NOT eligible for the participation raffle.

Demigod Selection

Each 3 man team must use the following formula to make their Demigod character selections based on a 7 point maximum.  Be aware that no duplicate demigods are permitted on the same team.  This means you cannot choose random.

  • Demon Assassin/Regulus - 1 point
  • Oculus/Queen of Thorns/Senda/Torch Bearer - 2 points
  • Lord Erebus/Oak/Rook/Unclean Beast - 3 points

Tournament Time Zone

The official time zone of the tournament is set for EST US time.  Players that are outside of that timezone are certainly welcome to play.  However, if there are significant scheduling difficulties due to players unable meet at the same time, the team furthest outside of the EST zone will most likely be disqualified or forfeit that match.  This rule does not excuse folks in the EST zone from any responsibility.  All parties in this tournament should endeavor to schedule their matches with other teams and try to be as flexible as possible. 

Decision Making Panel

This tournament will be governed by a decision making panel consisting of pacov, McShane, hedgie with Jongalt as an alternate.  The panel's purpose is as follows:

  • Review any scheduling issues and making the final decisions with regards to disqualification. 
  • Reviewing replays as required (crashes and desyncs)
  • Resolving any disputes that arise

The panel's decision on all matters will be the final word for this tournament. And last, the members of the decision making panel will not make any decisions on the games they are playing in.  We didn't have a panel in place for the first tournament and that was a mistake. 

How will we handle crashes

If there is a game crash, the players involved in that match should see if they can come to a consensus on the probable outcome of the match.  If there is no clear winner, the 2 teams should replay the match using the exact same demigods and sides (light/dark).  If there was a clear winner at that point in the game, then that team should be awarded the win.  If the 2 teams disagree on the outcome, then the decision making panel will review the replay of the match and render a decision.  Be aware that the decision making panel must agree that a specific team was going to win or the results will be thrown out and the match redone.  Please be thoughtful if you want the panel to review a match. 

How we will handle invalid game states

The lastgamereplay file is still created in the event of an invalid game state, so it is still possible to review the results of a match.  In the event of an invalid game state, players should attempt to resolve the issue exactly the same way as game crashes.  If you believe foul play occurred, submit the replay along with any screen shots, etc, as evidence and the decision making panel will review.  If there is a CLEAR consensus that a team is willingly triggering invalid game states, that team will be disqualified after a thorough review of the facts and will no longer be able to participate in the tournament.  If your game does crash, it might be advisable to take a screen shot of the crash as proof.  Be aware that we know invalid game states can occur without any sort of foul play, so please be mindful when submitting requests for review.

Current Teams:

  1. Soccermom, OMG_Zex, pacov
  2. Orcun, McShane, Defender
  3. beastmode, generalG, stiffyG
  4. IamKira, Mith, Zen_God
  5. bad daddy/chiefy/trousersnake
  6. jongalt/OMG_nomilarac/thundercles
  7. rwcupcrazy/pwnage_69/nojokes
  8. Iz_, Darz4, Darkliath
  9. Anneliese_the_Beserk/Udo_Juergins/Don_Doen
  10. Eltimes/Lols_SeaWolf/DreamCatcher
  11. OMG_jona__/4nana/kalel
  12. Nacelle, VulturePwns, LoCoJoK3R
  13. RobertMunch/FC-FuneralPortrait/DeadDemi
  14. Commando51, Rezzan, and T-Schert
  15. arkANG3L, swordguyj, and Firefromthesky
  16. brasher01/brokenstrong/beckad1(prozombe)
  17. Maxsteel32/Sebacoyl/Stilr
  18. Mortora/Nate_the_Great1992/SD_Zebrafox
  19. Bartleby/aberrator/nnnils\
  20. tsk-mandingo/ruiprsg_/kobzos

Registered Alternates:

Please be aware that other players are elligible to be an alternate based on the rules outlined in the alternates section.  I've simply left this list here so teams will know at least a few of the players that might be available as alternates. 

  1. busdude
  2. doggu
  3. gl-Spectre
  4. johnkout7
  5. jorune2112
  6. Kiamori
  7. OmicronLyrae
  8. Ouch-That-Hurts
  9. Renfri
  10. Rocchinho
  11. Taharos
  12. volen20

For any of you that would like to use it, we have a public ventrilo (voice chat) server that you are welcome to use for the tournament.  Even if you don't have a microphone, if only 1 person on your team does, it can be very useful to use voice chat (at least 11 of the registered teams will be using voice chat.  Why not you too?

Here's all of the info you need to get started:

Here is where you can download the client (its free): http://www.ventrilo.com/download.php

Here are instructions on how to use ventrilo to connect to a server:  http://www.ventrilo.com/setup.php

And here's the needed server info:

Server Name:  Lagwar's Ventrilo Server
Hostname: 
oxygen.typefrag.com
Port:
50216

I have created some password protected channels for those of you that would like to use the server.  Scroll down until you see channel Oh My Demigod.  You will then see tournament channel 1/2/3.  The password for these channels are demigod.  Let me know if you have any questions. 

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Reply #851 Top

Right. And as hybrid Oak my strength is inversely proportional to minion Oak's (and LE for that matter); after he takes your towers down, there is little else he can do.

When I texted Chiefy that i had just won a game versus a double minion team with a Yeti Sedna on our side, he was like, "Let me guess, Zex."

Reply #852 Top

Quoting BadDaddy8, reply 851
Right. And as hybrid Oak my strength is inversely proportional to minion Oak's (and LE for that matter); after he takes your towers down, there is little else he can do.

When I texted Chiefy that i had just won a game versus a double minion team with a Yeti Sedna on our side, he was like, "Let me guess, Zex."

LOL

Reply #853 Top

Um - I appear to have to the wrong folks names in my previous post here (was a wee be sleepy)... what I meant to say was:

Um - so, guess what.  I think baddaddy and chiefy are about to be happy.  I was talking with trousersnake (old school tier 1 player) and he is willing to hook up with you guys and at the very least play a few pugs.  He'd like it if you guys could hop on vent Friday around 10PM est.  He will be a little rusty, but I think after a few games, he'll be right back into the swing of things.

 

Reply #854 Top

That's great news, pacov. Thanks for hooking that up. That's why you da man. I'll pm him now.

Edit- Can't find a post by trouser to pm him with. If you talk to him, we will be on vent around 10 tonight.

Reply #855 Top

Yeah - I'll let him know.  He never used the forums too much, but he should be up to speed on the tourney rules, have the latest uberfix, etc.  He'll make a fun teammate for you guys. 

He's got his own channel in the vent now - it has the same pw and as me or cow (pm someone if vent if you don't know the pw). 

Reply #856 Top

Confirmed today that trousersnake will be replacing lord orion on baddaddy and chiefy's team.  For those not following, lord orion originally registered with them and has not been heard from in some time.  These guys made efforts at first to find an alternate with little luck in case lord_orion resurfaced and then I checked in with trouser and he said he'd be willing to play.  So, I'm removing lord_orion from the team and replacing with trousersnake.  If orion pops up, your team can decide how to handle things (add him as an alternate, etc). 

Edit - shred_demon indicated he would not be able to play in the tourney - removed team DD-ABornExile/Shred_Demon/pangea__2.  aborn/pangea - if you can find a replacement, you are still welcome to compete, but you need to complete 6 games by this coming sunday. 

Reply #857 Top

LOL. You know who is on our team before we do. Hilarious. I haven't spoken to trouser since our game Friday night. You were wrong... he wasn't rusty at all. He played his first game back against McShane and co. and ended up with 7 kills, 1 death as Reg in a game that Chiefy and I blew despite hitting WS 10 first. In other words, he lives up to the hype and we are happy to have him.

HOWEVER, he is a hard guy to stay in touch with, since I can't really Vent during the week, and he doesn't use the forums. If you talk to him, could you ask him if he wouldn't mind getting on occasionally and PMing me, so as we can actually schedule games and get them in, so all of your noble effort is for naught. On my end, I will try to better at using Vent as a means to communicate.

Thanks again pacov.

Reply #858 Top

HOWEVER, he is a hard guy to stay in touch with, since I can't really Vent during the week, and he doesn't use the forums. If you talk to him, could you ask him if he wouldn't mind getting on occasionally and PMing me, so as we can actually schedule games and get them in, so all of your noble effort is for naught. On my end, I will try to better at using Vent as a means to communicate.

Thanks again pacov.

you guys on steam?  That's how I get ahold of trouser - and he's pretty easy to find for me.  pm me if you are along with your steam username. 

Reply #859 Top

I had an idea prior to the tourney start i didn't get to expose here, i guess it's too late now for the current tourney but it could be useful for the future.

As we're enforcing 3 games per match, as a sort of catch-up mechanism, i think if a team had a 2-0 advantage we could let the other team use 1 more point (up to 8) when selecting their demigods.

Pls bear in mind i'm not asking for this rule to apply for this current tournament,  i'm aware some teams could have taken advantage of this in some already played matches, i'm just throwing the idea out there ;)

Reply #860 Top

As we're enforcing 3 games per match, as a sort of catch-up mechanism, i think if a team had a 2-0 advantage we could let the other team use 1 more point (up to 8) when selecting their demigods.

Pls bear in mind i'm not asking for this rule to apply for this current tournament, i'm aware some teams could have taken advantage of this in some already played matches, i'm just throwing the idea out there

Well - I'll I agree that this won't happen in this tournament.  That said, I do think that's a pretty good idea.  It should handicap the winning team some which should add to the fun (imo, of course).  I trust we'll learn quite a bit from this tournament and hopefully improve on future ones. 

Reply #861 Top

Quoting BadDaddy8, reply 857
LOL. You know who is on our team before we do. Hilarious. I haven't spoken to trouser since our game Friday night. You were wrong... he wasn't rusty at all. He played his first game back against McShane and co. and ended up with 7 kills, 1 death as Reg in a game that Chiefy and I blew despite hitting WS 10 first. In other words, he lives up to the hype and we are happy to have him.

Lol don't be ridiculous, he had 7 kills and 3 deaths.  You're right though he did play very well. 

Reply #862 Top

Guy's - just a friendly reminder - you need to get 6 games in per week to still be in the tournament (or at least show signs in the scheduling thread that you are trying to get your games in - we know some folks will register and won't want to play things out).  We changed the rules for week 1 and 2 - you only need to get 6 games in for both weeks, but the week officially ends this Sunday (10/31) at midnight.  If you don't have at least 6 games in by then, you could be disqualified.  If you don't speak up for yourself in the scheduling thread, you WILL be disqualified.  So, if you want to compete, please get your games in or make sure we know you are trying by using the scheduling thread.  After Sunday if you haven't spoken up, you will be eliminated. 

Reply #863 Top

we have 7 games in but did not complete the 3rd game against two teams, so we're waiting for that before we post any results

Reply #864 Top

why wait to post them zen?  i would still track them the same way.

Reply #865 Top

Quoting OMG_Jongalt26, reply 864
why wait to post them zen?  i would still track them the same way.
mith is the replay master, and he wants to wait

Reply #866 Top

no problem zen just remember the date that you played the games on since i'm logging that as well. (although its not really necessary)

Reply #867 Top

Another reminder - teams that have not played at least 6 games by 11:59PM EST on 10/31/2010 are at risk for disqualification.  Make sure you post in the scheduling thread if you are trying to get your games in and are just not having any luck.  And remember, you must post your game results and replays in the tournament results thread by that time or you could be disqualified.  No nonsense about not wanting others to see your replays before you play them. 

Team's at risk for disqualification at 11:59PM EST on 10/31/2010:

  1. Soccermom, OMG_Zex, pacov
  2. beastmode, generalG, stiffyG
  3. IamKira, Mith, Zen_God
  4. bad daddy/chiefy/trousersnake
  5. rwcupcrazy/pwnage_69/nojokes
  6. Iz_, Darz4, Darkliath
  7. Anneliese_the_Beserk/Udo_Juergins/Don_Doen
  8. Eltimes/Lols_SeaWolf/DreamCatcher
  9. OMG_jona__/4nana/kalel
  10. Nacelle, VulturePwns, LoCoJoK3R
  11. RobertMunch/FC-FuneralPortrait/DeadDemi
  12. Commando51, Rezzan, and T-Schert
  13. arkANG3L, swordguyj, and Firefromthesky
  14. brasher01/brokenstrong/beckad1(prozombe)
  15. Maxsteel32/Sebacoyl/Stilr
  16. Mortora/Nate_the_Great1992/SD_Zebrafox
  17. Bartleby/aberrator/nnnils\
  18. tsk-mandingo/ruiprsg_/kobzos

So... pretty much everyone as of today...

Reply #868 Top

No nonsense about not wanting others to see your replays before you play them.

 

I couldn't agree more, considering at least you and i are even broadcasting our games which gives other teams even more insight to the tactics.

When i thought about teams possibly withholding replays due to strategic reasons i got a bit upset about it.  Zen and I did ask mith to upload their games last night so hopefully they will show up today/tomorrow. There didn't seem to be a strategic withholding of the replays there.  If anyone wants me to upload their replays for any reason, i will be more than happy to.  my email is my screen name at gmail.

 

On another note, i think all teams that dont currently have 6 games in today should be DQ'd hehehe

Just kidding.

kinda

lol

 

All joking aside, the first round of DQ's, i would recommend, are handed to the teams that have zero games and no recently active presence on the forums or anything else.  Teams that only have 2 or 3 games shouldn't necessarily be DQ'd automatically. 

This brings the list down to

  1. beastmode, generalG, stiffyG
  2. rwcupcrazy/pwnage_69/nojokes
  3. Anneliese_the_Beserk/Udo_Juergins/Don_Doen
  4. Eltimes/Lols_SeaWolf/DreamCatcher
  5. RobertMunch/FC-FuneralPortrait/DeadDemi
  6. brasher01/brokenstrong/beckad1(prozombe)
  7. Maxsteel32/Sebacoyl/Stilr

 

Please note that i PM'd zebrafox for gametimes with no response

I also msgd nacelle and he indicated that his team may not be interested in continuing (he hasn't confirmed though)

We can certainly revisit this when the time comes, but the teams on this list are most likely at the most risk of being DQ's.

(and if this short list above is DQ'd it would reduce the game count from around 600 to 250 total - which is would be 36 games per team played before playoffs)

 

I guess my point here is that I am petitioning that there should be some flexibility with DQ'ing and that as predicted, a lot of teams will opt out anyways.  With even 5-7 teams dropping it has a significant change in reducing the total games required and shortening length of time on the tourney. 

However, pressure still needs to exist to get the teams to play :-)

j

Reply #870 Top

Anyone opposed to having jongalt replace lord_orion as the alternate for the decision making panel?

Reply #871 Top

we played 2 games against max's team

and it wasn't a stategic withdrawl of replay or something i'm just lazy :grin:

Reply #872 Top

Anyone opposed to having jongalt replace lord_orion as the alternate for the decision making panel?

Jon deserves it. He's done as much work as anyone except pacov getting this thing together.

Reply #873 Top

Quoting Boxxy_Mithrandar, reply 871
we played 2 games against max's team

and it wasn't a stategic withdrawl of replay or something i'm just lazy

he really is^^

Reply #874 Top

Quoting Boxxy_Mithrandar, reply 871
we played 2 games against max's team

and it wasn't a stategic withdrawl of replay or something i'm just lazy

 

I hope my comments weren't taken in a way to implicate that !  I didn't think that was the case for you :)

Reply #875 Top

Thanks Pacov and Bad !

jon