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The 2nd Demigod Community Tournament - Rules and Registration

The 2nd Demigod Community Tournament - Rules and Registration

Pacov's Last Stand

Welcome to the 2nd Demigod community tournament (Pacov's Last Stand) - rules and registration thread!   


UPDATE 1:  The scheduling thread has been opened.  Please head over there and post when you are available to play:  http://forums.impulsedriven.com/399006

UPDATE 2:  A new version of uberfix is available AND is required for the tournament.  Please see here and download/install:  http://forums.demigodthegame.com/399037

UPDATE 3:  The RESULTS thread has been opened.  Please head over there to track your wins/losses/replays:  http://forums.demigodthegame.com/399047

Update 4:  Registration is now closed.  Alternates are still allowed, but no new teams will be allowed to register at this point.

Update 5:  Added ventrilo (voice chat) server information for those of you that would like to use voice chat.  It also helps in finding people that are ready to play their matches!

Update 6:  The replay commentaries/discussions thread has been opened:  http://forums.demigodthegame.com/399150.  Check this thread out for news on live streaming events during the tournament along with commentaries and video for some of the games in this tournament!


This thread will cover all of the relevant rules and registration information.  Please see below for all of the details.

The tournament began on 10/16/2010.  Please be aware that this tournament will not begin and end on 10/16/2010.  It will actually take several weeks to complete. 

Background 

In April 2010, we started our first community demigod tournament.  The tournament was 2v2 and certain demigod selections were restricted.  The tourney carried a crash prize donated by people in the community and was won by the two man team of zen_god and King_of_thorns.  For more details on that tourney, read up here: (http://forums.demigodthegame.com/380837). 

Tournament Format

  • The tournament will be played as a 3v3 round robin tournament.  Round robin simply means that there is no elimination outside of disqualification.  Your team will play each and every team.  
  • Each match in the tournament will consist of 3 total games. 
  • We will track every win and loss.  The team with the most wins is the winner of the round robin portion of our tournament.
  • After the round robin has concluded, the top 4 teams will battle it out elimination style in the best 2 out of 3 games. 

Tournament Rules

  • All matches will be played on cataract with default settings (the only exceptions being AI HP on Very High and AI Gold/XP on low). 
  • Each team will play 1 round on the light side, then 1 round on the dark side.  In the 3rd round, if each team has 1 win, the team that had the fastest win in game 1 or 2 gets to pick the side they want to be on.  If one team already has 2 wins, the team with no wins gets to pick the side they want to be on (keep in mind the following rule). 
  • The team that is on the dark side must pick their characters and ready up first.  Then the team on the light side gets to pick and the dark side does not have a chance to adjust their characters.
  • Players using oak may not use spirits to perform a citadel rush.  Any player doing this will have their entire team disqualified for that game giving a win to the opposing team. If you don't know what this terminology means, odds are you aren't citadel rushing with spirits. 
  • Players MUST form their own teams
  • One player from each game must report their stats in.  We will open up a tournament stat tracking thread after the tournament begins. 
  • To track your wins, you must do the following - post the replay at gamereplays.org.  If you have issues with gamereplays, upload the file to rapid share and provide us with a link.  One player from the winning team should do this for each and every match. 
  • Each team must complete a minimum of 2 matches (6 games) per week.  If there are extenuating circumstances, then the decision making panel will review them.  Failure to complete 2 matches per week will result in a disqualification for your team. 
  • ALL teams are required to use the version of the uberfix mod here:  http://forums.demigodthegame.com/399037

Alternates

  • Each team is allowed to have exactly 1 alternate
  • The alternate must not be participating in the tournament (either directly registered for the tournament or on a duplicate account). If it is discovered that the alternate is a player that is already in the tournament, but using a different account, all of those matches will be forfeited.
  • The same alternate cannot be used by multiple teams
  • If a team wins a cash prize with an alternate on their team, that team must determine how they will handle the prize money.  The decision making panel has nothing to do with how you choose to split up the money.

Prize 

There will be a cash prize > $600.  Jongalt will be handling the collection of the money for this tournament.  We are discussing the prize money in this linked thread:  http://forums.demigodthegame.com/398009.  We appreciate any contributions to the prize.  YOU ARE NOT REQUIRED TO PAY TO PLAY IN THIS TOURNEY. 

Here is how we will be splitting the winnings from the pot:

  • 10% goes to the team that wins the round robin
  • 50% of the balance goes to the winner of the playoffs
  • 25% of the balance goes to the 2nd place winner of the playoffs
  • 15% of the balance goes to the 3rd place winner of the playoffs
  • Participation raffle - 1 player from a team that has completed all of their games in the tournament will be entered into a random drawing after the tournament ends.  That player will receive a prize of $30 as incentive for finishing the tournament.  This money will be taken from the total cash pot before any other money is distributed by percentage.  Any player that has won a cash prize is NOT eligible for the participation raffle.

Demigod Selection

Each 3 man team must use the following formula to make their Demigod character selections based on a 7 point maximum.  Be aware that no duplicate demigods are permitted on the same team.  This means you cannot choose random.

  • Demon Assassin/Regulus - 1 point
  • Oculus/Queen of Thorns/Senda/Torch Bearer - 2 points
  • Lord Erebus/Oak/Rook/Unclean Beast - 3 points

Tournament Time Zone

The official time zone of the tournament is set for EST US time.  Players that are outside of that timezone are certainly welcome to play.  However, if there are significant scheduling difficulties due to players unable meet at the same time, the team furthest outside of the EST zone will most likely be disqualified or forfeit that match.  This rule does not excuse folks in the EST zone from any responsibility.  All parties in this tournament should endeavor to schedule their matches with other teams and try to be as flexible as possible. 

Decision Making Panel

This tournament will be governed by a decision making panel consisting of pacov, McShane, hedgie with Jongalt as an alternate.  The panel's purpose is as follows:

  • Review any scheduling issues and making the final decisions with regards to disqualification. 
  • Reviewing replays as required (crashes and desyncs)
  • Resolving any disputes that arise

The panel's decision on all matters will be the final word for this tournament. And last, the members of the decision making panel will not make any decisions on the games they are playing in.  We didn't have a panel in place for the first tournament and that was a mistake. 

How will we handle crashes

If there is a game crash, the players involved in that match should see if they can come to a consensus on the probable outcome of the match.  If there is no clear winner, the 2 teams should replay the match using the exact same demigods and sides (light/dark).  If there was a clear winner at that point in the game, then that team should be awarded the win.  If the 2 teams disagree on the outcome, then the decision making panel will review the replay of the match and render a decision.  Be aware that the decision making panel must agree that a specific team was going to win or the results will be thrown out and the match redone.  Please be thoughtful if you want the panel to review a match. 

How we will handle invalid game states

The lastgamereplay file is still created in the event of an invalid game state, so it is still possible to review the results of a match.  In the event of an invalid game state, players should attempt to resolve the issue exactly the same way as game crashes.  If you believe foul play occurred, submit the replay along with any screen shots, etc, as evidence and the decision making panel will review.  If there is a CLEAR consensus that a team is willingly triggering invalid game states, that team will be disqualified after a thorough review of the facts and will no longer be able to participate in the tournament.  If your game does crash, it might be advisable to take a screen shot of the crash as proof.  Be aware that we know invalid game states can occur without any sort of foul play, so please be mindful when submitting requests for review.

Current Teams:

  1. Soccermom, OMG_Zex, pacov
  2. Orcun, McShane, Defender
  3. beastmode, generalG, stiffyG
  4. IamKira, Mith, Zen_God
  5. bad daddy/chiefy/trousersnake
  6. jongalt/OMG_nomilarac/thundercles
  7. rwcupcrazy/pwnage_69/nojokes
  8. Iz_, Darz4, Darkliath
  9. Anneliese_the_Beserk/Udo_Juergins/Don_Doen
  10. Eltimes/Lols_SeaWolf/DreamCatcher
  11. OMG_jona__/4nana/kalel
  12. Nacelle, VulturePwns, LoCoJoK3R
  13. RobertMunch/FC-FuneralPortrait/DeadDemi
  14. Commando51, Rezzan, and T-Schert
  15. arkANG3L, swordguyj, and Firefromthesky
  16. brasher01/brokenstrong/beckad1(prozombe)
  17. Maxsteel32/Sebacoyl/Stilr
  18. Mortora/Nate_the_Great1992/SD_Zebrafox
  19. Bartleby/aberrator/nnnils\
  20. tsk-mandingo/ruiprsg_/kobzos

Registered Alternates:

Please be aware that other players are elligible to be an alternate based on the rules outlined in the alternates section.  I've simply left this list here so teams will know at least a few of the players that might be available as alternates. 

  1. busdude
  2. doggu
  3. gl-Spectre
  4. johnkout7
  5. jorune2112
  6. Kiamori
  7. OmicronLyrae
  8. Ouch-That-Hurts
  9. Renfri
  10. Rocchinho
  11. Taharos
  12. volen20

For any of you that would like to use it, we have a public ventrilo (voice chat) server that you are welcome to use for the tournament.  Even if you don't have a microphone, if only 1 person on your team does, it can be very useful to use voice chat (at least 11 of the registered teams will be using voice chat.  Why not you too?

Here's all of the info you need to get started:

Here is where you can download the client (its free): http://www.ventrilo.com/download.php

Here are instructions on how to use ventrilo to connect to a server:  http://www.ventrilo.com/setup.php

And here's the needed server info:

Server Name:  Lagwar's Ventrilo Server
Hostname: 
oxygen.typefrag.com
Port:
50216

I have created some password protected channels for those of you that would like to use the server.  Scroll down until you see channel Oh My Demigod.  You will then see tournament channel 1/2/3.  The password for these channels are demigod.  Let me know if you have any questions. 

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Reply #402 Top

Pacov - can you set some sub-channels for the tournament, password protected perhaps the password should be: DG
End of quote

Yes, I can create several channels for anyone that wants to use the vent. 

Reply #403 Top

I'll stick with 3 games of tourney rules.  K.I.S.S.

Reply #404 Top

Me too. 3 games of tourney rules.

Reply #405 Top

Quoting OMG_pacov, reply 406
I'll stick with 3 games of tourney rules.  K.I.S.S.
End of OMG_pacov's quote

What he said.

Reply #406 Top

Quoting Darz4, reply 402

Of course, I didnt say it was a bad thing ^^, just emphazising the fact that cash prize is not a crucial point and that you guys could still organize (in the future) a competition without any money involvement.
End of Darz4's quote

I think cash prizes are very crucial. They don't have to be necessarily high though. But the more money is involved the higher is the quality of a tournament! Just like poker, if you play for free, 90% of people won't care half way through the tourney.Moreover, money prizes ensures it to go through!

Reply #407 Top

Things we ARE finalizing today:

High or normal towers.  This was a dead issue, but several people chimed in wanting high towers, so I reopened the vote.  Today is the absolute last day to vote.

Votes for high towers:  Total votes:  7

  • pacov
  • darz4
  • jongalt
  • pangea__2
  • Iz_
  • Darkliath
  • stiffyg

Votes for normal towers: Total Votes  9

  • McShane
  • bloodowl
  • bad daddy
  • cow
  • mith
  • orcun
  • orion
  • nom
  • Zen

We've agreed that we won't be playing the best 2 out of 3 games in this tourney.  Each match will consist of a total of 3 games.  There was some discussion about having a free for all demigod selection in the last game.  Here are the current votes. 

votes for 3 games of tourney rules 

  • Jongalt (I can be swayed easily on this one though lol)
  • Thundercles
  • McShane
  • Darz4
  • pacov
  • Darliath
  • BadDaddy8

Votes for game 3 FFA

  • Orcun
  • cow
Reply #408 Top

I shouldn't have 2 votes, I changed mine to match Thunders.

Reply #409 Top

Quoting GM-Zen_God, reply 409

I think cash prizes are very crucial. They don't have to be necessarily high though. But the more money is involved the higher is the quality of a tournament! Just like poker, if you play for free, 90% of people won't care half way through the tourney.Moreover, money prizes ensures it to go through!
End of GM-Zen_God's quote

Yes people care. You are far more involved in a match when you know other participants are waiting for the result, will watch the replay, maybe someone will review it, it's qualifying your team for a higher rank in the competition, there will be unexpected results, etc.

Just see how people care about their stats. It's all about showing personal skills and earning respect, not money. This is the truly exciting aspect of a competition, not the profit you can do by winning it. I can assure you for having participated to many competitions on other games and having organized one.

Players joining this tourney are almost all skilled and experienced. Usually around 30% of the participants are good players, 50% are average players, and 20% are not-so-good players. Because average players want to give it a try and see it as an occasion to surprise everyone (which is right, because it happens, and it's good for community when new players arise). Having money involved makes the thing more serious and elitist, which makes people think "it's not for me". As consequence there are less players joining and less variety.

Nonetheless, involving money has the benefits you mentioned. It just scares newcomers/average players.

(I am not criticizing the tourney, just giving a general opinion in a moderate wall of text)

Reply #410 Top

Hi,

this tournament is a great idea and so we will join it....

We are a team of 3: udo_juergens, Don_Doen and me

So we hope it will be a great fun

 

Cu in fight

Anneliese

 

Reply #411 Top

Quoting Anneliese_The_Berserk, reply 413
Hi,

this tournament is a great idea and so we will join it....

We are a team of 3: udo_juergens, Don_Doen and me

So we hope it will be a great fun

 

Cu in fight

Anneliese

 
End of Anneliese_The_Berserk's quote

Great guys!  I will add your team to the list.  Thanks for registering!

Reply #412 Top

2 games with tourney rules 1 game ffa

not that i think my vote will change something

 

Reply #415 Top

2 with restrictions one without PALEASE

Reply #416 Top

Things we ARE finalizing today:

High or normal towers.  This was a dead issue, but several people chimed in wanting high towers, so I reopened the vote.  Today is the absolute last day to vote.

Votes for high towers:  Total votes:  7

  • pacov
  • darz4
  • jongalt
  • pangea__2
  • Iz_
  • Darkliath
  • stiffyg

Votes for normal towers: Total Votes  9

  • McShane
  • bloodowl
  • bad daddy
  • cow
  • mith
  • orcun
  • orion
  • nom
  • Zen

We've agreed that we won't be playing the best 2 out of 3 games in this tourney.  Each match will consist of a total of 3 games.  There was some discussion about having a free for all demigod selection in the last game.  Here are the current votes. 

votes for 3 games of tourney rules 

  • Jongalt (I can be swayed easily on this one though lol)
  • Thundercles
  • McShane
  • Darz4
  • pacov
  • Darliath
  • BadDaddy8

Votes for game 3 FFA

  • Orcun
  • cow
  • pangea__

VOTE - just going to keep spamming this as people reply... let's lock it down.

Reply #417 Top

Defender is voting for normal towers as well.

and FFA third game.Thx.

Reply #418 Top

I'm torn... I occasionally still have nightmares of Orcun chasing me down the moment he gets level 5 and don't want that happening.

Eh, just put my vote with McShane for normal to make it even.

Reply #419 Top

Although I'm not playing, I would rather watch the 3rd game as ffa.

Reply #421 Top

Quoting 4Nana, reply 422
Although I'm not playing, I would rather watch the 3rd game as ffa.
End of 4Nana's quote

Hedgies not playing and I believe he favors all three games tourney rules so I guess you guys cancel out?

I don't understand what the big deal is... if two teams want to play ffa selection for their match whats the problem?

Pros

- Players who want variety can get a few matches in with whatever dg choices they want so they and replay watchers get some more variety.

- Players like myself who only know how to play a couple of demigods don't get stomped quite as hard by players who can play all the DGs well and can prepare for the tourney easier... I think the top players will agree that players of my caliber are going to get their asses handed to them badly enough.

Cons

- People seem to think that what other players consent to play in their own matches to decide the winner somehow affects other players who aren't in their match.  I don't understand this... are you guys worried that if Team A plays Team B with FFA selection the other teams won't be able to prepare as well against them when watching replays?  Would that really be such a bad thing?

Reply #422 Top

Well i need two teammates

Reply #423 Top

Things we ARE finalizing today:

High or normal towers.  This was a dead issue, but several people chimed in wanting high towers, so I reopened the vote.  Today is the absolute last day to vote.

Votes for high towers:  Total votes:  7

  • pacov
  • darz4
  • jongalt
  • pangea__2
  • Iz_
  • Darkliath
  • stiffyg

Votes for normal towers: Total Votes  12

  • McShane
  • bloodowl
  • bad daddy
  • cow
  • mith
  • orcun
  • orion
  • chiefy
  • nom
  • thunrdercles
  • Zen
  • defender

We've agreed that we won't be playing the best 2 out of 3 games in this tourney.  Each match will consist of a total of 3 games.  There was some discussion about having a free for all demigod selection in the last game.  Here are the current votes. 

votes for 3 games of tourney rules 

  • Jongalt (I can be swayed easily on this one though lol)
  • Thundercles
  • McShane
  • Darz4
  • pacov
  • Darliath
  • chiefy
  • BadDaddy8

Votes for game 3 FFA

  • Orcun
  • cow
  • orcun
  • defender
  • pangea__
  • rawrrr

VOTE - just going to keep spamming this as people reply... let's lock it down.

Ok.  Voting is now closed.  Normal towers wins by a vote of 12 to 7.  Normal tourney rules for the entire tourney wins by 8 to 6. 

So, officially, the tourney will be standardized matches.  All games on normal towers.  3 games matches.  And normal tourney rules for all 3 matches. This vote WILL NOT BE REOPENED.  

Next topic (and the good news is I think we are almost done with the org stuff) - how will be handle things at the end.  Votes are appreciated.

Should we:

1) have the top 4 teams have a showdown at the end?  It would be team a vs team b.  Then team c vs team d.  And then a final game against the winners. 

2) Have a final match between the top 2 teams

3) End the tourney PERIOD once the last game is played.  In the event of a tie we have a playoff based on tourney rules.

 

And side note - I'm calling this as an official rule - regarding any of the scenarios above, if there is a tie, there will be a playoff by standard tourney rules.  I appreciate your QUICK feedback.

 

 

 

 

Reply #424 Top

Oh and normal towers!