The only issue you had was that you and orcun's team just had to mirror match I don't feel that way and I dont think zen's does either.  The rules of the tourney should'nt be changed for the top placing teams who were the only ones involved in the discussion.

Sure we'll do Occ-TB-Rook with you.  If we don't agree to mirror match beforehand it just means we have to go through some more points shit all over again, that's already been decided.  I thought it was just going to be different character selection rules for the championship game, but didn't work out that way. 

Maybe we stick with the original rules for the first round if Zen wants to and since Jona clearly does?  Different character selections for championship round only?  If we do that though third game in the championship has to be a free for all, I don't want to be forced into using Zen's dumb pick.  Now see what you've done Jona!  Pacov's going to be so angry lol.

mmmmm, how come i'm "always here"? I haven't actually been on for the whole day so i've just read all this in an "away from home" laptop. 

I'm actually "super good" with erebus Jona  , you just might have not seen me play it...  So that's actually not a problem if you need me to substitute any of you again.

But yeah i agree the change of rules looks a bit one-sided and there's an over-abundance of Erebus (3 times) and UB (2) in contrast with the lack of Oak/Sedna/Oculus. I've honestly had enough of Sedna and Oculus (as well as UB...) in the current tournament but Oak could easily replace Erebus in at least one of the proposed combos.

My vote would have gone for free-for-all, one-by-one DG picking with no DG repetition per team (9 different demigods in each team through the 3 games), but really, anything you guys come up with will likely be fine by me.

One last thing, i'll gladly play as a substitute again in jonas/kalel/rawrrss team if you need me and i'm available, but i'd rather see you 3 play together for the finals since i feel you're the "true" team and who actually earned to be in the final 4. 

Cheers guys

We've already decided how we're handling the selections, I think we can still decide on whether we're doing it for all final 4 games or just the championship though if both Jona and Zen want to stick with the original selections.

I dont like the idea of forced mirror matches and forced dg combo selection from only THREE selections.  You decided all this on the saturday two weekends before christmas!  Some people are doing things on a saturday and we still get a say.  It all just looks very underhanded.

could not try to make this any more clear, though... i do not give a rip about dg selection.  could care less if jona, et al want to stick with the original rules.  Just play your game before you are disqualified this week.  if you have a problem, the talk it out with mschane as you are playing with them first.  If they want to accommodate, then whatever.  If zen has a problem with the rule and can actually schedule a match before disqualifications this week, he can let me know.  Old rules are fine with me to.  My teams odds go up quite a bit using the standard rules anyway.  and now i'm responding to pm's wondering why the last placed team didn't win the round robin portion of our tourney... sort it out and play your game so we can finish the tournament. 

Alright so finals use the new character selections for sure.  We'll let Jona decide if he wants to stick with the original tourney rules whenever they get on to play against us.  We're available all day tomorrow Jona.

I don't see what is wrong with adding whatever jona's team wants as a DG team to the selections. There will just be four selections vs three.

We did that, it's also perfectly fine but he's still unhappy because we're doing mirror matches.  So sticking with the original rules for the first round is the other option.

sounds fair and logically should work for jona's team then.  Just let them call it when you fellas get together then. 

So, we'll just make this quite official, then - and I think its a simple compromise that should keep all parties quite happy.

Teams in the final 4 portion of our tournament will have the option of 1) sticking with the original character selection rules or 2) going with the mirror match selection.  Before teams start their games, they will briefly discuss the option they want to go with.  If the teams do not agree, then they will stick the original demigod selection rules as listed in the rules and registration thread; however, once the teams have agreed on the character selection rules, they will stick with those rules for that match (eg either you stick with the old rules for the best 2 out of 3 or you stick with the mirror match rules for the best 2 out of 3).  These rules apply for both the semi-finals and the finals. 

That should hopefully take care of it. 

The semi finals MUST be completed by Tuesday at midnight (or at least be in progress at that point).  If you make it to the finals, you will be expected to play in the finals no later than Thursday at midnight.  If the games have not taken place by that point, disqualifications will occur.  Disqualifications will be determined based on teams making a logical effort to get their games in.  Hoping you get your game in and not being willing to schedule will result in a disqualification if you do not meet those deadlines.  The easiest way to avoid that is to simply speak with your team and make a post in the scheduling thread based on your availability.  I'd hope to see a little more effort than "we hope everyone is on when we are" because if that is all the effort that is put into it, you will likely be disqualified.  Avoid that by making an effort. 

edit - and just another reminder, all teams MUST use the latest version of uberfix 1.03 for the semi-finals and finals - linky:  http://uberfix.googlecode.com/files/Uberfix%201.03.exe

Perfect

I have my finals this week. can we set the due dates after this week? omg there is a newer version of ueberfix now, you guys are making this complicated.

and this is why I suggest the next tournament should be a one or two day deal with strict time rules... 

Lol no.  What did you have for the last month that you couldn't play or find an alternate for mith.  Orcun's gone for a month and a half after the 18th, you're disqualified if you don't play on  or before Tuesday.  I have finals this week also, but 3 or 4 hours to get a few games in isn't asking a lot. 

Yea zen we have used alternates for everyone on our team,  time to switch someone out...

wtf dude, kira was gone for 3 weeks work related, after that it never worked out, either cow had to go bowling, had to study, pacov had poker night, soccermom was not online, and mith in the end did not make it on one date. So chill out and lets try to find a solution you disqualifying god. Just threatening me now because one of your teammates has to leave, really low man. I've been trying the hardest from both teams to find a date to play.

heh... leave me out of that one... that was the crazy week you and i booked thurs then fri then sat then sunday for a game

Here's the situation - or-chin is out of town starting on friday or sat of this week... if I remember right, he's gone for a somewhat extended period of time.  As such, ending the tournament prior to then means this does drag out any longer than it has (prior to last night there were what... 0 tourney games played for like 3-4 weeks?).  You should look into finding an alternate if you can't squeeze in a few hours over the next 2 days.  The only way that wouldn't matter is if jona's team eliminates or-chins.  If that happens, then or-chin being out of town won't really matter all that much to me.  I just don't see why it has to be so insanely difficult to get 6 people together at the same time... I'm giving like 8 hour time windows for monday and tuesday and a 13 hour window today...

Here's the situation. It is finals week for mith and me. Overload of studying to do. Also Mith is 17 years old, and he cannot out of nowhere say i'm gonna take 5 hours off today to play demigod online which probably drags out to more hours when he has so much to do. I bet you guys have similar situations, I know cow and soccermom do, so it will it even make harder to find a common date to play.On top of that, Kira lives in a different time zone, so after 6pm it gets really late for Kira. He is on vacation, however, so he can play somewhat later.

So it is really hard to make common dates. 3 out of 4 times your team couldn't  make it when we could, and it is much harder for us to find a date to play than for you.

I rather postpone the tournament till orcun is able to play again then to try to set a dueline in 2 days and say you're in or out. The fact is you're now trying to accommodate one person while others not.

Lol I'm not threatening you, I'm just letting you know that what would happen if you don't play has already been decided.  Orcun told everyone 3 weeks ago when he was leaving so there was plenty of time to come up with alternates and get playing.  This didn't just pop up out of nowhere 

"i will probably be leaving US for some backpacking during Christmas break around 20th of December for about 1-2 months"

That was Orcun on November 22nd

The fact is, when we had dates to play, pacov's team could not play, and there were several. I don't blame them everyone lives a complete different life and has things to do. But then if we cannot play on a date you put out (this tuesday) , you should not out of nowhere disqualify us. Also setting the due date that short out of nowhere is dumb. You should at least say within 1 week from now on both teams have to find a date, not in 2 days. Also never in the rules it said, at one random date we will end the tournament and give 2 days notice. I will try to find an alternate as best as I can, but it is impossible for me to play within the given deadline.

I don't have a problem, to try to finish this tournament as fast as possible. My issue is the randomness of the deadline with so short notice. I need more than 2 days to find a common date to play and get an alternative to play, especially being that busy this time of the year.

What do you mean if we elimnate orcun,  they still have to play for third if we win...  If zengods team isn't DQ'd they we want to wait for our entire team also.

I agree but they did the same thing to us.....  We dealt with it and got an altenate

We did not even finish our sets with you jona, because your entire team just vanished for several weeks, knowing how hard it was for us to schedule games. I don't have a problem with setting a soon deadline and finding alternatives, but giving everyone only 2 days is too short!  Especially putting it on a Monday and Tuesday is just fail.