actaully if you look at my very first posts, i am the only one who has offered any facts....it is easy to say i am untrue when you dont wanna take the time to prove me wrong, but i will state this fact again even though i have already done so 2 or 3 times now...Apple banned YZ dock cause it was the closest and best representation of the original MacOS dock...why hasn't Apple banned ObjectDock? The answer is that is isn't good enough for Apple to ban, at least not yet. That is a FACT, and why it isnt being removed by Apple, just simply because it is not a good emulation of the original

I stated 2 more main facts to prove my point, but I will let you go back and read them, since you obviously never did the first time

Apocalypse_67 wonder why Connor remains here after he has announced multiple times that he was 'outta hea' and also wonder why this thread is not locked yet?

and I wonder why someone talks about themselves in the 3rd person, lol

Y´z Dock was banned by Apple Japan. as Y´z Dock was developed by a Japanese and also supports Japanese language it probably got too much media coverage in Japan.
so much for that.
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where´s that second "main" "fact" you are talking of, btw. ?

This is my last post because honestly it makes me sad to know that I have downloaded things from this site for about 2 years now, and come to find out today that its users arent all too bright, so Im outta here,

I missed whatever sparked this thread (Also, I haven't read the rest of it because it's undoubtedly the usual 'attack' the poster drivel that happens here all too frequently) , but given that you commented on how people shouldn't get worked up over things on the internet, and also on the double standards issues, surely leaving the site is an example of what you're talking about.
Also, why leave, there's no law that says you HAVE to use the messageboard.
The site is there for anyone to use, so you could continue to download from it without ever coming back to the messageboard, since you don't like it.

Example:
I hate onions. So you'll never see me eating them and bitching afterwards how crappy they taste. I just don't eat them. Easy.

and I wonder why someone talks about themselves in the 3rd person, lol

Ouchhh! that hurt.......... Not.
You're still here mr Connor??

Tsk, tsk, tsk. I see you cant stick to your own words.

exactly! like i said like 15 posts ago..."this is the INTERNET! dont get so worked up over a few words"...so even though I said that noone will listen to me, but look...Hoppy got the jist of things, why cant everyone else?

Tsk, tsk, tsk

who says "tsk tsk tsk" anymore except 80 yr old grandmothers and people from france?

where´s that second "main" "fact" you are talking of, btw. ?

um...in my first post just like i JUST said...along with the 3rd one....man, you people really CAN'T read can you?

i'm done with this foolishness...go on an talk about me behind my back all you want, cause i'm not checking this message thread anymore. but for crying out, don't judge people who are obviously more knowledgable than you are about certain programs...it just makes you look stupid

i couldn´t find a fact proving your point. that AquaDock can use Y´z Docklets is correct, but that is because AquaDock is just a hack of Y´z Dock. that Apple Japan did not ban ObjectDock because it´s not close enough is not a fact but an assumption. the other things about AquaDock being "perfected" or using DirectX are nonsense.

maybe if you would repeat what is left of your "facts" it would help to prove your points.

from me? sure, i´m an arrogant elitist. always been.

at least i like onions.

moshi listed facts...[as did myself].

A number of people tended to attack the harbinger.....

connor_roberts' 'facts' were/are not such....he mistakes 'opinion' for fact......Unfortunately a common malaise.

I am beset with two options....to close this thread as well to prevent additional chest-beating by the sublime and the ridiculous, or to remove Master roberts as the miscreant inciter there-of with scant regard for acceptable conduct.

The former is yet another 'communist' activity...the latter is just too easy.

Listen to moshi.....his history of YZDock is correct-weight.

Ignore much of the rest.

Just one rule to heed....

Please do not feed the troll.

Even if he is removed he will be back with a new name. Its pretty clear he doesnt know how to leave.

Well, I have read just about every comment on both threads, and to say the least. Bashing seems to be the big thing with WinCustomize of today. When someone post for a request, help, or just something new. You get maybe 1 or 2 smartArshe postings. Get a guy who bashes Stardock...whoa!!!! 70 responses in just a few hrs. I have so often wanted to ask a question or share things with this Message Board, but scared of the sarcasm to be followed. It just seems that WinCustomize has turned nothing more than a Lott full of comedians.

To the infamous Connor, I have used ObjectDock for awhile now, and I have never had a problem out of it. As far as the Y'z dock, I have never, nor had the desire to try, so I really can not compare the two.

....and maybe the only 1 or 2 responses you should of got from your original thread, AquaDock....No thanks, I like my ObjectDock a lot more, I don't need two programs that do the same thing. Thanks anyways.

..."this is the INTERNET! dont get so worked up over a few words"...so even though I said that noone will listen to me, but look...

Dunno who is most "worked up over a few words" here actually....

Dont like what you read, dont feed the flames!
(aka stop posting, just in case someone didnt get it)

This issue is pretty straight forward:

AquaDock is a pirated version of YZDock. It's that simple. This site won't support AquaDock anymore than it would support any other pirated piece of software.

As for which is better, that's the same discussion as YZDock vs. ObjectDock. Different people have different preferences.  I will say this - both AquaDock and ObjectDock are on Download.com.  And despite being highlighted by Download.com, AquaDock only got around 1/5th as many downloads as ObjectDock.  So whether the original poster likes it or not, ObjectDock is almost assuredly more popular. That doesn't prove it is better but it does certainly imply that ObjectDock isn't "crap".

Conner has only been elucidating the use of imbecilic posting habits and lack of cognitive abilities, also perchance a not so veiled desire to quibble?

Apple banned ObjectDock? The answer is that is isn't good enough for Apple to ban, at least not yet. That is a FACT, and why it isnt being removed by Apple, just simply because it is not a good emulation of the original

ObjectDock is free because we don't see a reason to charge for it.  If anything, it is more of a work in progress, and that is why the page for it specifically states that it is unsupported.  Apple doesn't have a problem with it because it doesn't (and never intended to) emulate the mac's bar.  If you want to run a computer that looks and acts like a Mac, buy a Mac.

 

Here Here

I didn't read all the posts in this thread carefully, but as someone who is doing a lot of programming on docklets for both docks, I think I can say I know pretty much about both docks.

First let me make something clear:
Aqua-dock 1.0 = Y'zDock 0.83, so everything I say is also true for Aqua-dock.

Y'zDock does not use any of the functions available by the DirectX API. It only uses GDI and GDI+ functions (which is slower than GDI, but has some funky extra things).

Object Dock on the other hand does use one DirectX function (DirectDrawCreate) and also uses GDI+.

Y'zDock does have a magnification-effect that is closer to the OSX-dock effect than Object Dock, but when running animations [using a special docklet that does that], Y'zDock is a LOT slower than Object Dock. This is because Y'zDock uses one window to display the docklets/shortcuts/bg, where Object Dock uses several windows for docklets/shortcuts/bg.

Y'zDock uses less memory (yeah, that's true), because Y'zDocklets draw themselves on request, where as Object Dock docklets can set images, but don't have to redraw themselves.

Bweurk, I am sleepy now

(btw, as a programmer - which you claim to be, you say some strange things about GDI, GDI+ and DirectX)
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# 75, #77, and even a little of #76....well your posts were kinda .... ummmm...sexy!

It would appear to me that conner is not really concerned with learning the true nature of things from informed, knowledgeable individuals with experience.
His sole purpose here is to do nothing but cause conflict and start trouble.

I for one, recommend a final warning to him, pending permanent exile.