odd low-morale planet

My experience on low morale planets is that nothing helps until you get Fusion Energy running. Then I can get morale boost with embassy, and move up from there.


~SDC~

Try boossting your planetary quality as this affects morale far more than any other factor. Also you don't say what PQ the planet is(see the sticky), its population and what your tax rate is; these all need to be taken into account.

Exar

Actually he did.

~SDC~

PQ 16

Population around 3 billion presently. (It has only recently been re-colonized.) I don't know how high it got the first time around.

Tax rate fluctuates between 0 and 40 percent, depending on other circumstances. But the morale on this planet is 1% even at tax rate zero, when my overall moral is 93-100%.

And as I said, I have built several morale boosters. (Only Harmony Crystals is missing.) I am not at my computer right now or I would tell you specifically which boosters *have* been built.

(Come to think of it, right now, none of them have been built. But before the flip to I-leage, all I had except HC had been built, and also I have several morale-boosting trade goods. Overal empire moral boost is 103% or something like that.)

-mS

You know, I think this might be a bug.

Because I am almost certain population is *growing.* It should be at morale 1%, right?

Yet it does show the little frowny face and like I said, it flipped to the I-leage once.

I'll have to get back home and check. Maybe I'm wrong about the population and growth rate.

-mS

Oops, "should" in last post should be "shouldn't"

-mS

Was there a colonization event that lowered the morale? I once colonized a 12 to extend my range, took a -44% morale choice, then destroyed the colony. Later in the game a new minor happened to pop up on that planet, and when I took it over the -44% was still there.

~SDC~

That would be nasty if it was somebody else's colony in the first place, and you took it over all unaware that it had a monster negative hanging on it like that. There should be some way to see that kind of thing, but I'm not aware of any way.

If you can't get morale up to a decent level, all I can think is that the original colonization took a morale event. But you're right, the population shouldn't have grown to 3 billion at 1 morale, and presumably you didn't colonize it with more than around a 100 million, right?

It was right next door to earth with something like 20 billion population, so I probably would have sent a billion or so over.

-mS

oops

Sorry master shaker, if you look on the details screen it will tell you what your overall morale boost on the planet is; which indirectly tells you if there has been a planet morale event or somthing

Hope this helps

Exar

I'd never colonize a planet with much over 200 million, rule of thumb, unless it's something like PQ26. My colony ships are all about 25-125 million, depending on the population of the planet of origin and the PQ of the destination.

XenocidalManiac, why is that? What is the advantage to colonizing a PQ 15 planet with 200 million instead of, say, 1 billion?

-mS

Master Shaker

Build a colony ship on that planet and launch it with say just 200 million people left on the planet.. I would think your morale will increase..

Then send the colony ship to a planet taht already has 100% morale

Two major things that you get-- first, if you colonize a planet like that with so many people, morale can be low due to overcrowding. Second, you've just pulled 1 billion productive citizens from a very good planet, to move them to a planet where they aren't as productive.

Morale reduces with increased population, so that PQ 15 planet may simply be unable to support 1 billion people without significant investments in PQ improvements and morale improvements.

Much easier to just send at most 200 million people, which the planet can easily support, and let the planets population build on its own, to a level that it can support, as you improve it.