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Using Strategy From Outside of the Game

October 14, 2008 10:44:58 AM from Sins of a Solar Empire ForumsSins of a Solar Empire Forums

Has anyone ever drawn upon real world examples or writings of military strategy to win a game of Sins?  Such as "On War" by Carl von Clausewitz or "The Art of War" by Sun Tzu?

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RoyalRook
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Reply #1 October 14, 2008 6:19:32 PM
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Yea man, divided and conquer, counter spying, and cultural warfare, Sins got it all, baby.  You will be scratching your head when I slice and dice your empire into tiny little pieces.  Wahahaha... 

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Reply #2 October 14, 2008 11:05:35 PM
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Chapter 1 - We work out who the good players are, who the allies are etc...

Chapter 2 - Get my economy functioning

Chapter 3 - Build a mixed fleet

Chapter 4 - Build defensive strucutres where required and scout to know if you have an opportunity to attack

Chapter 5 - Work out what to build and when

Chapter 6 - Work out where they are weakest

Chapter 7 - Move my ships around (including within a battle)

Chapter 8 - Make sure I don't spam a single unit so I can adapt

Chapter 9 - Scout the enemy and pick where to attack

Chapter 10 - Work out the lay of the land (repair bays etc...)

Chapter 11 - ??? (This one got me)

Chapter 12 - work out which weapons to use on various targets

Chapter 13 - Scout and get the scouting techs

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Reply #3 October 15, 2008 1:00:00 AM
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Small map?

Part A- Build loads of scouts. Find the enemy.

Part B- Cripple his industry, research, and mining.

Part C- Gain massive superiority.

Part D- Begin the slaughter.

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Reply #4 October 15, 2008 2:05:40 AM
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"Know yourself and your enemy and you can go into 100 battles without disaster." -> Scout your enemy.

"The victorious warrior win first the go to war, while the defeated warrior go to war first then seek to win." -> If you can not win, retreat and regroup.

“Let your plans be dark and as impenetratable as night, and when you move, fall like a thunderbolt.” -> Do not let the enemy scout you and when you attack do not stop until you are victorious.

 

"The Art Of War" - Sun Tzu

 

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Reply #5 October 15, 2008 3:24:45 AM
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Quoting i_love_it,
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"Know yourself and your enemy and you can go into 100 battles without disaster." -> Scout your enemy.

"The victorious warrior win first the go to war, while the defeated warrior go to war first then seek to win." -> If you can not win, retreat and regroup.

“Let your plans be dark and as impenetratable as night, and when you move, fall like a thunderbolt.” -> Do not let the enemy scout you and when you attack do not stop until you are victorious.

 

"The Art Of War" - Sun Tzu

 

So the second rule is retreat and the third is do not retreat.

*Is confused*

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Kyrein
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Reply #6 October 15, 2008 3:37:00 AM
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Retreat if you can't win, fight if you can win, stupid.

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Reply #7 October 15, 2008 4:48:12 AM
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So the second rule is retreat and the third is do not retreat.

*Is confused*

If you cannot win, then do not attack.

If you attack and lose, the enemy will not let you retreat (Phase Jump Inhibitor).

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Hack78
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Reply #8 October 15, 2008 8:14:24 AM
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Do, or do not. There is no 'try.'

Yoda

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Reply #9 October 15, 2008 10:14:51 AM
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Personally I play by the mantra. If they're dead they can't hurt you

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Reply #10 October 16, 2008 9:17:07 AM
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"He who plays against human opponents online instead of mindless AI becomes a more competitive player." -- unknown.

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MastahCheef
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Reply #11 October 16, 2008 7:11:54 PM
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"A real soldier is not a tank with a supercomputer, but a Marine and his rifle!"---- unknown

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Kyrein
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Reply #12 October 16, 2008 8:35:33 PM
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The problem is a marine with a rifle tends to get blown to bits by tanks with supercomputers.

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Reply #13 October 17, 2008 12:47:10 AM
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Pretty Funny Kyrein. I'll pit my Javelin against your tank with supercomputers any day of the week.

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Kyrein
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Reply #14 October 17, 2008 12:57:13 AM
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Bring out the MGs!

And explain to me where anybody mentioned Javelins.

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Reply #15 October 19, 2008 3:57:34 AM
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I'm guessing he is talking about this kind

http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/javelin.htm

Sort of weapon a soldier (marine) would carry

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Kyrein
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Reply #16 October 19, 2008 4:15:20 AM
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I know what he's talking about.

It was specifically stated "a marine and his rifle".

No anti-tank missile launcher in that phrase.

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Reply #17 October 19, 2008 6:29:21 PM
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Quoting Hack78,
reply 15
I'm guessing he is talking about this kind

http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/javelin.htm

Sort of weapon a soldier (marine) would carry

 

Anti-Tank Missile Launcher equipped with Supercomputer a Marine would carry with his rifle.


Does that make sense? I THINK NOT!

 

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Reply #18 October 20, 2008 2:30:21 AM
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Quoting EmperorPalpatine89,
reply 11
"A real soldier is not a tank with a supercomputer, but a Marine and his rifle!"---- unknown
Any quotes about a certain blue robot and the gun built into his arm?

What? There arent any?

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