It seems that TB and other AoE characters would benefit greatly by fighting in large-scale battles (3v3+), or against generals who use minion builds. As I cannot play anything above 2v2 myself, has anyone else seen a difference in his effectiveness as player totals scale upward?

That was me, I'll write a guide and reveal the mysteries sometime.

But definately no fireball.

I forgot about this guide : http://forums.demigodthegame.com/357298

I play my TB a lot like his, just with very different itemization. Always use Anklet, and start with Gauntlets of Brutality/Banded Armor, enjoy your early kills on the millions of stupid Reguli.

Well played TB is one of the hardest DG to move out of lane from game start to end, but I see soo many wrong (imo) views about how it should be played.  Admitiedly, I play almost exclusively Fire, but:

*) TB is anything but glass cannon.  As I have posted a number of times, TB almost doesn't need any other item but HP/Armor ones and doesn't sacrifice anything by stacking HP and Armor.  Consider that a full fire/ice build still leaves 5 points to put into enhanced attributes and you get a TB at level 20 that has pretty much same or more base HP as any other DG.  I regularly have among highest HP in any game from start to finish.

*) +70 auto attack damage is insane on a kiting demigod early game.  Coupled with area denial of Circle of Fire makes any DG have trouble staying in a lane.

*) Fireball is 150+dps kiting after level 10.  That is anything BUT insignificant, no matter how much HP you stack.

*) TB damage stacks very well against HP stacking.  Consider that your dps for the early/mid part of the game is primarily hindered by mana.  As your mana grows, so does your continous dps.  And as Fire TB you get pretty much infinite mana at level 15.

The only bane of (at least Fire) TB is vell played interupts.  Sedna, Oak and Ice TB can really ruin your day if they know what they are doing.

So on OP subject - yeah, there are many TB players that are not very good.  I have not really seen any other TB do as well as me in games - which doesn't mean that I'm a gosu, cause definitely I am not... Though I have seen few ice TB that have done a very good job.

I thought I was the only one who noticed this.  I've only played against 2 people that actually know what they were doing when it comes to TB.  The rest of the time I just consider it an easy free kill and roll them over.

I'd say the real weakness of TB is priest minions. Harassing doesn't work when HP comes back faster than you can wittle it down.  

Haha thanks for the guide link Itchy.  I love me some full frost TB, full fire is fun too but frost is so versitile.  I think the key with playing TB (as well as any other demi really) is knowing when you can win and when you can't.  You can't just use my frost TB then go toe to toe with a demi at all levels and circumstances without dieing.  You rain them, you auto attack, you back off when they charge, until they hang aroudn just a bit too long, then you charge in for the kill as they run and realize they can't get away.  Its pure joy.

Welp, Teseer just schooled me with his hybrid TB, so I guess I'll have to admit both to being a miserable sedna, and that TB is quite capable in good hands.

geez...

this demi is pretty good against towers, he can freeze them and take the flags.

his slowing aoe is good as well.

i play most of the time the frozen guy.

never tried the hybrid because i think its just stupid to change during the fight your tree.

http://www.gamereplays.org/demigod/replays.php?game=51&tab=upcoming&show=details&id=86949

Just finished a 2v2 as TB and won. Both teams were premade. Took me and my buddy a minute to realize that avoiding the enemy and farming their creeps was our best option early/mid game heh. We let the giants do most of the work.

Our team was TB and QoT. Theirs was Sedna and Regulus. I even think the reg got ashkandor.

I think this game illustrates the fact that TB's primary role is to support creep waves rather than kill enemy DGs.

*edit*

ofcourse the stupid replay seems to keep crashing the moment we kill their sedna

Twas a fun game pseudomelon

Yarr, +1 for both being a good player, and being a fun guy to play a game with

Edit: Pooh Bear seems to be Karma-blocking me. Alas.

Double-edit: Stupid question, but is there some special software needed to run this video? Can't get it to boot off of Demigod or Media Player, or a couple of my custom video players.