Inner Beast 1 does so little. If you dump it, you can get Spit/Ooze a level earlier. I recommend this.
I believe that vs a good team you can't afford to sacrifice health over speed. You can chase with speed, however this only lets you win vs players, you'd win against most likely anyway, because you are better and they don't know when to run. Good players won't engage you unless they think they can win, and they will have pots/sigil, if they need to run. So I don't know if this works at expert level, but maybe it does, I just dont know.

Ooze and spit is the best build, playground. Inner beast usually is inferior to stats unless you can get to level 15. Don't get foul grasp 2. However, the guide is decent and has most of  the important stuff.

Seriously Wip,

Grasp, you been putting points into Grasp the entire time? I hate you.

Question: This is your UB 3v3, ok, but, normally, what ur team picks with you, in a competitive game?

And another, this 3v3 is for any map or any specific map?

Say you have a 4k mana pool end game.

Number of rank 1 grasps you can do:  5

Amount of life drained (assuming you let it do the full duration and don't pop Ooze or Wand of Speed): 1660

Total stun time:  10 seconds

Number of rank 3 grasps you can do:  2

Amount of life drained: 1328

Total stun time:  4 seconds

Granted there are cooldowns and regen but basically the stun duration doesn't increase with rank on grasp unfortunately and that's what makes it awesome.  Lower mana cost = more grasps = more stuns.  The life gain is trivial and I often pop wand of speed mid grasp anyway and start auto-attacking like a real pr0.

No, I don't use it for the regen.  That's my point.  I use it for the stun.  And I use it often.  Apparently you use it for the regen.  Realistically you're not always going to be at full mana when engaging in fights.  I'd rather save that mana for spit and/or more grasps.  The extra levels in grasp only give you an additional 332 life drain at the cost of nearly double the mana.

Who's gonna win the fight when you spit and only have 1k mana left?

In his defense he does have a very different play style.

Wip is correct in saying he do not run out of mana when engaging in direct combat. I played with him and I do notice this. The problem actually lies in his experience rate. Due to his heavy demand on mana, he has to go back to base more often than another ub who regens mana back. Therefore while it is true he has more damage and lane control power than the other ub. He also gives up his ability to stay and fight for long durations (and thereby hurt his lane farm).

If you noticed his items choices, he picked battlecrown only. Its quite obvious he isn't planning to regenerate mana back.

While discussing this with him he also realize grasp against range attackers such as reg/tb/qot is significantly reduced (given the reg/tb/qot knows what they are doing).

Also, Wip is not aware of the bug that cancels post mortem when plague is active.

yes what posi said its true my gamestyle changes with lvl i start with a hit and run ub and by the time i reach lvl 16 i hunt with ooze engage to kill and then regen and i wasnt aware of the bug but still we are talking about lvl 18-20 skills i still give options and sometimes plague might still be worth it as for the range demigods significantly reducing grasp i didnt say that i said all it takes its a reg or a tb making a mistake sutch as a fireball and if i'm able to grasp they are not getting away alive. so far no1 proved i was wrong on grasp 3

Epiphenomenon i rather take botf as ub its already very weak at low lvl speed boots and inner beast give me all the speed i need, by taking it u'd probably better off changing the whole build lol. i dont reach lvl 16 very often only on the hard games the ones that count

ntropy those 52 seconds away from citatel beeing superior isnt right at all there's a lot of other factors there i dont get out of the citatel and start regen mana b4 i use it also imagine i have 5000 of mana with vlemish i would have 5525 with plenor i use a spit of 800 mana i'll only have to regen 250 with battlecrown to reach the max mana i'd ever have with vlemish while with vlemish i'd need to regen 800. saying its superior after 52 seconds its ridiculous.

Also u keep giving me that crap about the mana i could save with grasp or regen over time... its just the same as the other guy only instead of multiple grasps u swap for an additional spit.... why do i want another spit? i'm i gonna spit 5 times in a fight? no u wont spit more than 2 times in a fight 3 maybe so by putting 2 points on stats u'll get 200hp armor and a bit of extra dmg witch i daut will be anywhere near 300 witch doesnt make up for the advantage i have with grasp 3. Please stop with this mana issue i already told u and so did posidenii i do not lack mana ingame with this build if i felt i needed mana i'd go for another helmet witch isnt the case

• So Grasp III > Stats
• I rather have hauberk of life over nimoth anytime specially at the time i get artifacts since i'll be melee+ooze most of the time and i need regen 
• No that armor sucks i'd never buy a armor that does not give me hp and even if i had another spot on items i'd rather buy platemail of the crusader

i think u should revise your post i just proved u for this strat vlemish isnt better after 2min or after 52secs or aftrer 30min or after 1h also grasp doesnt give me more time and ye whatever serves me better will do and grasp3 its what serves me better since i already told u the 1328 bonus hp  beat by far 2 points on stats. armor is good but in this build playstyle health and hp regen its mutch better

still i like how foul grasp went from a fatal mistake to a not sutch a big diff. we are getting somewhere lol

i'll be sure to do that thks for showing interest

This is my exact build except i use bof and vlemish (in place of bos and plenor)  I also usually get lvl 1 claws at lvl 2 and late go with inner beast.