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QoT 900+ dps????

November 9, 2009 9:45:27 PM from Demigod ForumsDemigod Forums

I'm making graphs of the basic stats of all demigods and I discovered this shocking thing!

Queen of Thorns has 908 damage per second at level 20 without any equipment or skill!!

The next best DPS is Oak with only 400. Is this possible?

 

If the stats on the DemiWiki are correct it is! Ofcourse if the 0,12 rating / level is supposed to be 0,012 it isn't. Wich seems more logical to me!

 

How did I calculate this? Simple:

Damage at level 1: 128 - 142 ((128 + 142) / 2 = 135)
Damage / level: 9 * 19 =  171
Damage at level 20: 135 + 171 =  306

Rating at level 1: 0,69
Rating / level: 0,12 * 19 = 2,28 (this is probably wrong and should be 0,012 / level I guess?)
Rating at level 20: 0,69 + 2,28 = 2,97

Damage per second = damage * rating

DPS at level 1: 135 * 0,96 = 93,15
DPS at level 20: 306 * 2,97 =  908,82
DPS at level 5: 200,07
DPS at level 10: 382,32
DPS at level 15: 618,57 

 

Is this correct? This is crazy if it's true! Though it only starts being good around level 12 or so. So you'd probably never notice ingame, unless you're in a really long / fast game.

 

You can find these numbers here: http://demigod.wikia.com/wiki/Queen_of_Thorns

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Yeodan
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Reply #1 November 9, 2009 9:54:12 PM
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here's the graph showing the dps of all demigods for each level

I'll post some more graphs tomorrow

 

 

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Reply #2 November 10, 2009 12:07:21 AM
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First of all. It's a wiki, and those often have typos, because any drunk dude can edit there. Obviously it's not 0.12 but 0.012/lvl. Even if it were, attack rate has a hard cap at 2. Thirdly... I think somebody would have noticed if the QoT had 900 dps, and this would have been fixed a long time ago, because it would be totally overpowered.

 

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Reply #3 November 10, 2009 1:00:29 AM
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QoT has about 306 DPS at level 20.

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Reply #4 November 10, 2009 12:18:31 PM
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I wish

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Reply #5 November 10, 2009 2:12:54 PM
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Good Morning,

Check out this thread, it may save you some time.

 

http://forums.demigodthegame.com/364517

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Reply #6 November 10, 2009 2:58:34 PM
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Level 20 average attack dmg = 306 and her attack time is 1.13 therefore DPS is 270.796 oak is 290

Rook (the highest) is 327.

 

 

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Reply #7 November 10, 2009 3:40:58 PM
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I'm pretty sure you guys calced dps wrong

Your rating becomes higher as you level up, meaning a higher rating makes you attack faster or you actually get weaker as you level up, wich makes no sense.

Therefor you have to multiply damage with rating and not devide it.

 

My graph should be correct if the numbers on the wiki are correct, except for queen obviously.

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Reply #8 November 11, 2009 2:55:59 AM
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Quoting Yeodan,
reply 7

Therefor you have to multiply damage with rating and not devide it

 

DPS=Damage/attack time

 

As attack rate goes up, attack time goes down, when you decrease the denominator of a fraction the result goes up.

 

1/3 > 1/4 > 1/5 ect

 

 

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Reply #9 November 11, 2009 4:38:00 AM
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She can hit 3x targets per hit so... 306 times 3 = 900+dps

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Reply #10 November 11, 2009 6:25:50 AM
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Quoting vaarag,
reply 9
She can hit 3x targets per hit so... 306 times 3 = 900+dps

queen's AA doen't have AOE? well I never noticed it if she did

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Reply #11 November 11, 2009 6:31:16 AM
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in closed form it has aoe, in open form its single target.

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Reply #12 November 11, 2009 12:16:27 PM
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Quoting Yeodan,
reply 10

Quoting vaarag, reply 9She can hit 3x targets per hit so... 306 times 3 = 900+dps

queen's AA doen't have AOE? well I never noticed it if she did
CLosed form can hit three enemies at once, but it doesn't hit 1 enemy 3 times so it doesn't go to 900.

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Reply #13 November 11, 2009 12:36:17 PM
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Do empirical testing.

Start a skirmish game at level 20 with the QoT. Her regular attack is 280, her attack speed is 1.09, her rate is 0.917, her dps is 305.2. In closed form she does have an AOE, it isn't limited to 3 enemies, that is just the number that are within range when she typically attacks.

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Reply #14 November 12, 2009 4:13:33 PM
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Quoting Ptarth,
reply 13
she does have an AOE, it isn't limited to 3 enemies, that is just the number that are within range when she typically attacks.

Interesting, I may nee to test this.

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Reply #15 November 13, 2009 12:12:58 AM
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yeah qot does not have that much damage at all, but i do agree with Ptarth, because although her attack is not limited to hitting only 3 eneimies at a time, the aoe is not in a large area, making it on average hit only 3 at max. In massive batttles however, i get to hit generally around 8-9 units. Crazy right? And Qot is not UP, she is just played incorrectly.

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Reply #16 November 13, 2009 2:02:55 PM
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QoT can do 900dps

Its called a minion build with Ground Spikes

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Reply #17 November 13, 2009 2:32:14 PM
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Quoting heavenlysynn,
reply 14

Quoting Ptarth, reply 13 she does have an AOE, it isn't limited to 3 enemies, that is just the number that are within range when she typically attacks.
Interesting, I may nee to test this.
I vote we increase the aoe range and in 1 on 1 let her hit 1 person 3 times.

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Reply #18 November 13, 2009 2:36:03 PM
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Quoting heavenlysynn,
reply 17

I vote we increase the aoe range and in 1 on 1 let her hit 1 person 3 times.

I vote that her Ground Spikes has a longer lasting duration

I already clear creep waves with it

Her biggest problem is the mana cost. Reducing the cost of her abilities would make her a lot better. I mean 625 mana to summon 2 shamblers 0_o
1250 mana to use Spike Wave 3rd form!!!

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Reply #19 November 13, 2009 2:41:33 PM
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Quoting _Golgoth_,
reply 18

Quoting heavenlysynn, reply 17
I vote we increase the aoe range and in 1 on 1 let her hit 1 person 3 times.

I vote that her Ground Spikes has a longer lasting duration

I already clear creep waves with it

Her biggest problem is the mana cost. Reducing the cost of her abilities would make her a lot better. I mean 625 mana to summon 2 shamblers 0_o
1250 mana to use Spike Wave 3rd form!!!

Plenor + vleh literally rids me of all mana issues and aas many times iv proven myself near immortal in game with her mainly because of those two items and mana management. I always felt the higher I leveled the skills the less mana it seemed to consume.

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