I have tried all the browsers out there and actually spent over a month with each and have concluded that FF is the best browser for me, although I like Opera also but I just can't live without my FF plug-ins!

All that people who secure pcs want is people to stop making foolish choices.  I guess if you want to give us money, go right ahead, but it's annoying to say the least.

I suppose if I told you to get nod 32, a good firewall that blocks incoming and outgoing, run in user mode not admin, and don't download porn you'd have the same attitude?

I suppose if I told you to run in Vista's 'Sudo' equivelent, UAC, you'd tell me to screw off?

Whatever.  This is why people have problems.

I'm done with this.

P.S.  Thank you Snidely Whiplash for not wanting me to fix your pc.  One of the main reasons I got out of the repair field is because of people like you, and people in this thread, ignorant people who don't listen, and then come back 3 days later and blame me.

actually, i run vista64. also, i have my mcse and mcdba certifications. yes, i use nod32 and there's no porn on my rig... ANYWHERE.

because you prefer firefox doesn't make you the expert. i prefer ie over firefox. that fact doesn't make me more or less intelligent than you or anyone else regarding browser security.

what i do not understand is why you are so beligerent regarding this topic. you've insulted users who use ie instead of firefox based soley on your preference, nothing more. granted ie isn't perfect in regards to safety but neither is firefox.

regarding your edit of the previous post, neither you or anyone else works on my rigs. i built them. i repair them.

And one final thing:  If you truly want to be safe, it doesn't start with just a browser.

You SHOULD visit safe sites, but no one does that.  So you need protection.

Nod32 for viruses

A good firewall (I don't have a favorite)

A good spyware finder (I definately suggest spysweeper)

A rootkit finder (Rootkitreveler)

Cache cleaner (Ccleaner)

And a registry cleaner (Hijackthis is a good one)

These SHOULD be run once a week.  if a virus is found, your pc has the possibility of having problems even after it's removed, as the virus scanners cannot gurantee they will wipe the virus.  It should be reformatted.

I use all three.  I've been talking about safe UPDATED browsers, not FF in perticular.  I truly HATE people who come in on Xp using admin and use IE 6, and have never updated them >_<

If you read back I actually bashed FF 3.0, and it's mainly due to it being a memory hog.

I guess this didn't come across well, and I admit I've been too aggitated to make it come across well, but I simply mean updated browsers.

I am reading back what I said...

Hum, I guess I'm having a bad day.  I meant to say 'UPDATE YOUR DAMN BROWSERS' and it came out all wrong.

Well......  I'll suck it up.  You guys aren't stupid.  I am.  I meant to say this concerning browers and somewhere along the lines of saying it, I fucked it all up.

Best way to stay safe online no matter what browser or user acc you use & you don't need 3rd party crap ware like firewalls,spyware scanners or even antivirus or returnil, nup all you'se need is a full body condom & 1 for the comp,my fav type are glow in the dark ;p

TheDarkNight2008 ....you may not be too off-base with that one.  There's not a lot of mileage to be had in being belligerent and defining all others as fools...or foolish.

Generally speaking, most people here [on the site - or on the net, even] know next-to-nothing about who or what their audience/respondents really are.

I do know one thing....and it's a guaranteed CERTAINTY. 

No matter how expert you are...or how confident you are in your own expertise you will sooner or later be conversing with someone of much greater expertise and/or experience.

At that point you may be reminded simply that you are preaching to the choir, or have it suggested to you to 'suck it in'.

Either way...it's always wise to never underestimate the intelligence of your audience....as you do more than 'just' them a disservice....;)

Ok. I'm sorry but I've just got to ask.

TheDarkKnight2008 : have you ever posted in a single thread where you didn't come into it shooting off with lame insults and a childish attitude? and to go along with that has there ever been a thread where you came in with those bad attitudes and then didn't turn around later and apologize and blame it on having a bad day?

Just asking because every thread I've ever seen your name on has gone that way.

By the way everything you posted about browsers, antivirus, credit and the rest is all common sense stuff that anyone with half a brain already knows. Hardly qualifies you as any kind of expert.

DarkKanigit,

I'm recommending Kaspersky over Nod32 these days, but that just means NOD32 is #2 instead of #1. KAV seems to have fixed their resource issues and I've seen NOD32 fail with two trojans on client machines that KAV killed.

I'm a HUGE NOD32 fan and if people are using anything other than NOD32 or KAV, then they are essentially unprotected. Everything else is mediocre (freeware like AVG) or worse (Norton). But you might want to check out the latest KAV before recommending NOD32 anymore.

Just a friendly FYI.

:}

PS IMHO IE6 < FF2 < IE7 < FF3beta which might just be < IE8beta2 (too close to call this race yet). I use the latest versions of both browsers, depending on which sites I am visiting, since both fail in different regards with different sites.

PPS There's always someone smarter than yourself out there. Except for me. "It's good to be the king."

Nice post...agree with you about KAV, and saw something like that on PCWorld (methinks)

I know you're smart....wanna know how? You spell just like Zubaz!





Nice to end on a happier note. Anyone ever notice how Zubaz makes it into every thread? :SURPRISED:

Your opinion, and nothing more.

Agreed, how ridiculous. I use AVG pro and am quite protected. Not to mention I'm not a n00b when it comes to safe browsing habits.

I don't use protection.

C'mon, PurrBall....be nice!

funny in 3 years i've never used anything other than AVG and a couple other free versions of anti virus and firewalls and have never once had a virus or had my identity stolen. I must be special. ;p

But would you ever know?...;)

It's Bitdefender for me.  Nothing beats the reality of actually talking one-on-one with a dev on MSN when I did have a problem with it. [caused by an anti-spyware app]...;)

since in the past I have had viruses that got past Norton, Trend, and McAfee(all at different times) and knew it (unfortunately to late. Thank you crap av scanners.) I'd have to say yes.

I'll worry about my PCs security once I start getting senile and doing stuff like 'running two software firewalls to be more secure' and telling people I have 4 megabytes of RAM.

 

Owait, that's my dad.  Hmm.  He used to be computer savvy...now I guess he's just too into gardening or whatever the heck he does with his time.

 

Ahem anyway, you guys might not be so amused to know how many hotels I've worked at that did not even have their antivirus up to date.  One of them the managers even got pissed when I updated it so that it'd actually work.

 

That was extremely high on my WTF meter.  All managers that deal with credit information should be REQUIRED to take security classes...you want to know why you keep hearing about big chains losing millions of CC info?  Easy.  They most likely don't even bother putting a password on the account, use incredibly stupid passwords on their 'secure' asset transmission pages and programs, and probably don't know what a computer is beside the thing that displays the pretty pictures.  Ugh.

 

The bottom line there is...if you EVER hear a front desk person complain about the lacking computer security, bitch at the company.  You don't need to have an insecure PC to lose your credit card info...you just need a retarded business to do it for you.

me too since FF3 came out i havent looked back....

Wow....and there's no choice! I thought these people were competent. LOL...guess NOT!

Thanks, savyg!

I'm talking about people who don't have safe browsing habits. Honestly, people who don't use the internet at all are the safest, hehe. But the point is to be protected no matter what you do, where you go, or who happens to have cracked which OS security hole this week.

As a consultant for the senior brass at both MS and Apple, I use all three major OSs deliberately venturing anywhere and everywhere in order to test under worst case scenarios.

So while I'm glad you are a safe browser, I think that has more to do with your current level of safety than anything by AVG (though the latest versions are MUCH better than they used to be). In all honesty, I haven't seen a modern rootkit that couldn't easily get past AVG without even breaking a sweat.

If you were just an average internet user with no knowledge of safe browsing habits, I'd bet cash money that you're a rootkit zombie and didn't even know it...and I'd win my bet.

So my recommendation of #1 and #2 AV programs is so you don't have to be a safe browser. Fair enough?

Huh?

Aaah...another long, abusive thread.

*Pixeleo leans against a tree, sighing as he sees fellow humans engaged in educative and instructive argument, benefiting none*

*At last, he stands up and says:

So, I use Firefox too. And the last thing I wanted to do is tell other people that IE is bad.
People call Mac-lovers fanboys because they trash talk Windows-users.
People who trash talk IE will be called FF fanboys.
Do you honestly want to be called that?

*Pixeleo sneaks away before someone turns their head and sees him*