[IDEA] Different damage types

this idea bolds well for the 3 current heroes we have

regulus=piercing (higher dmg to low armor)

rook=smash dmg (reduced dmg to magic armor) (i believe torch bearer should have something like this)

torch=fire dmg(sets enemies on fire)

         ice dmg (slows enemies movements}

Does this aid gameplay somehow?

I don't think so, which would make it bad.  .

I do think the "small, medium, large" like SC is ideal, as it's simple.  But I just don't see the need in Demgiod.  It seems to work fine to me without them.  There are no damage-types in an FPS for good reason.  I think for Demigod it's the same reasons.

Jep, i dont see any need of this in Demigod. Remember, this is no RTS. ..and this is not Dota :>

Well Dota has also mostly one damage type. Only a few creeps got diffrent damage + Spells do magicdamage, this is due to the mechanics of Warcraft 3 and magic imunity etc. etc.

Spells in Demigod do pure damage.. right?

So long,

Aspartem

The only special attack type i think is skills.

Skills should be capped 33% armor reduction.  So a skill can't do less than 2/3rds dmg no matter how much armor someone has.

So a rook with 60% damage reduction would still take 2/3rds damage from skills.  But if someone has less than 33% armor, they'd take that much.

CURRENTLY skills ignored armor, but I was told that this wasn't intended and will be changed.

Of course there needs to be some line on armor that says it's capped at 33% vs. skills.

I think/hope some skills will keep ignoring armor though.

Special armor ignoring skills are fine yeah, but they should be the exception, not the rule, and clearly marked.

Check my Creep-Stats thread. http://forums.demigodthegame.com/323824

There are diffrent kind of Armor / Damage Type, i just dont know how they work... yet!

But sooner or later i'll get it.

I never noticed doing less damage to any units.

The armor/damage types probably only effect creeps fighting each other, but not Demigods, which works fine that way to have creeps RPS each other but not Demigods.  Or they just do nothing.

Maybe important for the Generals once they're implemented? Since they're more RTS-based.

Well, noticed that i dont hit all creeps/demis with the same power. Demi's is clear - due to diffrent armor values. But Priests for example get slightly more dmg than.. say towers or the golems. But im also not 100% sure, more a gutfeeling - and in terms of theorycrafting they're 99% wrong^^

So long, Aspartem

Currently the only damage type is that siege weapons do double damage to buildings, which makes sense and works well. Let's leave it that way. Everything else is at 1.00000. So you are mistaken on that count. However, they have a commented out section which may contain types they're thinking about. Here they are, bear in mind they aren't implemented and there's no note about what they're there for. They may be an old version from before they abandoned the idea:

#ArmorTypes = {
#    Unarmored = {
#        Normal = 1.0,
#        Hero = 1.0,
#        SpellFire = 1.0,
#        Spell = 1.0,
#        Light = 1.0,
#        Arrow = 1.25,
#        Artillery = 1.0,
#    },
#    Normal = {
#        Normal = 1.25,
#        Hero = 1.0,
#        SpellFire = 1.0,
#        Spell = 1.0,
#        Light = 1.0,
#        Arrow = 1.0,
#        Artillery = 1.0,
#    },
#    Heavy = {
#        Normal = 1.0,
#        Hero = 1.0,
#        SpellFire = 1.0,
#        Spell = 1.0,
#        Light = 2.0,
#        Arrow = 0.5,
#        Artillery = 2.0,
#    },
#    Structure = {
#        Normal = 0.75,
#        Hero = 1.0,
#        SpellFire = 1.5,
#        Spell = 1.5,
#        Light = 1.0,
#        Arrow = 1.0,
#        Artillery = 2.0,
#    },
#    Demigod = {
#        Normal = 1.0,
#        Hero = 1.0,
#        SpellFire = 1.0,
#        Spell = 1.0,
#        Light = 1.0,
#        Arrow = 0.5,
#        Artillery = 1.0,
#    },
#}

It looks relatively simple. Lighter attacks are less effective against heavy units and buildings, against which the heavier attacks do better.

Do they still have the projectile physics from Supreme Commander in the engine for Demigod?  If so, I think an accuracy stat combined with big, slow units being easier to hit would be a more interesting alternative to damage types.

For catapultasaurs yes.

Sadly though.. arrows and stuff are homing.   Which kinda bothers me..  I like when things are more powerful but dodgable.

There is the performance issue there though.  All those projectiles following accurate real-time flight paths in SupCom stopped a lot of people from playing.  (To be fair, I expect AI for thousands of units had a role there there too.)

Dodging stuff is cool, but a decent player just goes and dodges like 30-40% of your arrows + fetch some Evade equip and bam you'll deal 0.0000% damage to target melee which runs up to you and whacks ya face off.

I'd say, artillery should be like they're now, and Arrows shall be homing else its really hard to hit anything. I mean, honestly, the first time a catapulasaurus hit me was also the last one. I noticed they're not homing, and dodge even with a rook, without any bonus speed, every single shot they fired at me <.< Ok the projectile is not that fast but.. dah, i simply dont like it. This is not a shooter where i've to aim, i mean melee also just walks up to you and auto-attacks you.

Else you had to implement something, that ranged players can aim where they shoot. But else they can only give an attack-command and -hope- it hits you. That would be just unfair.

So long, Aspartem 

actually it's typically the pro players get higher move speed items in games where you can dodge projectiles.

And really it means you need to get in closer..

But theres a point there that it's hard to balance. In order to have the damge high for the pro players that can dodge them well it makes the classes overpowered for the newbies that just sit there..

I think there should be weaknesses against magic, and against pysical damages. This adds variety, and it's simple.

When you choose some equipment, a very high defense armor should not protect you very well against a rain of fire, but very well against minotaurs or Rook attacks. If you want protection from magic, you buy appropriate stuff.

It's extremely basic, I wouldn't understand if they don't do something like this. For buildings also: magic shouldn't deal much damages against them.

I think Demigods should also deal and receive 100% damage.  Only creeps armor types should interact.

always*

And that's before armor modifier, of course.