Urging People NOT To Cancel Pre-orders

We all know Gamestop released Demigod early - whether its their fault or not im sure, but the point is that it is NOT Stardock's fault this happened. Gamestop releasing DG early was totally out of their hands, so I urge you not to cancel your pre-order of Demigod.

First of all, none of the mutiplayer is working properly, you can only play in "Pantheon" mode which 90% of the time will be vs a.i' s only (due to lack of people online).

Secondly cancelling your pre-orders from Stardock will you mean they lose money (or do not gain as much profit). Although you get your game 2-3 days early, Stardock will have less money in the future to spend on updates for Demigod (Such as adding new Demigod's, maps and items).

Thirdly, they really deserve credit for this game which they helped make (with GPG). They are releasing the game on Monday, which is a day earlier then expected for us which shows they are doing everything they can. If it was not Easter weekend im sure they would be able to do something about it now (as they have often worked on weekend days for us in the Beta when they had no obligation too) but since it is all the offices are closed.

Thanks Stardock for the great game and enjoy suing Gamestop for that extra $$$ :D

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Reply #1 Top

Yeah, I second this post.

 

If you are ridiculously impatient like me, buy two copies and give / sell the other one. :thumbsup:

Reply #2 Top

Third'ed.

Reply #3 Top

Thing is, if nothing is done, they/people/GS/Stardock/whoever will continue to do it. If someone is not happy, there is one thing you can do to hurt where it really hurts: the money. Cancel your preorder. Stardock gets pissed. They sue GS. GS won't do it anymore.

Reply #4 Top

Trust me they are already contacting lawyers and showing Gamestop receipts (as they deny they were selling it) from people who purchases Demigod.

Quote from Frogboy:
"We're pissed"

Making them lose more money then they already will, will do no good to anyone. And buying from Gamestop just encourages them to do this more..

Reply #5 Top

Quoting DalzK, reply 4
Trust me they are already contacting lawyers and showing Gamestop receipts (as they deny they were selling it) from people who purchases Demigod.

Quote from Frogboy:
"We're pissed"

Making them lose more money then they already will, will do no good to anyone. And buying from Gamestop just encourages them to do this more..
End of DalzK's quote

Exactly. It's the same as buying an EA game with activation limits. By purchasing that and giving them money, you're telling them that it is ok to keep doing it.

Reply #6 Top

Why would someone cancel just because someone has the game before them? I have no life but still...get a life.

Reply #7 Top

It's pathetic.

Gamestop screws Stardock/GPG and we have preordering beta testers canceling to screw them even more over a few days. Anybody canceling their preorder over a matter of 3 days is a poster child for narcissistic douchebaggery.

I'll tell you what I'm doing about this.  I'm taking myself off Gamestop's mailing list and blacklisting their stores if it turns out this was in any way intentional or malicious on their part.

Reply #8 Top

If you stuck twiddling your thumbs waiting for Demigod, consider picking up Braid in the meantime. Gorgeous, amazing game. Should suck up a few days, tell you a story, and leave you feeling cleverer at the end.

Reply #9 Top

Actually because of the early release at Gamstop SD has made more money off me than what they would have originally...

 

I kept the pre-order and also the store bought copy....giving the other copy to my son...

 

So everyone is happy :)

 

I get to play and practice earlier and SD gets 2 sales...

Reply #10 Top

Soo. wont the people who bought it pre-release just get a "update available" just like we in the beta get atm? :)

I suppose they could still play Singleplayer but still..

Reply #11 Top

Nope, they can update and play pantheon/etc online. I even see some of them playing custom games right now.

 

-Drexion/Ragarth

Reply #12 Top

Not cancelling my preorder. Gamestop is being really mean this time...circuit city used to do that too, but since they're pretty much dead you don't have to worry about them :P

Reply #13 Top

forthed (i didnt see anyone 4th it lol) SD is way more deserving of more profits than GS will ever be. if your really that impatient, then dont come crying when your copy suddenly loses its serial from unknown causes. but srsly, GS must be a bt desperate to pull something like that, so, more power to SD for all they have accomplish and will accomplish with demigod and future titles, like an expansion? *_*

huzzah! :ninja:  

Reply #14 Top

Quoting Sevenix, reply 10
Soo. wont the people who bought it pre-release just get a "update available" just like we in the beta get atm?

I suppose they could still play Singleplayer but still..
End of Sevenix's quote

Unfortunately no.  Retail keys are actually valid right now, unlike pre-order keys.  Which is annoying, because I really want to download that update so Impulse stops spamming me about it.

Reply #15 Top

Quoting Joh48Smith, reply 3
Thing is, if nothing is done, they/people/GS/Stardock/whoever will continue to do it. If someone is not happy, there is one thing you can do to hurt where it really hurts: the money. Cancel your preorder. Stardock gets pissed. They sue GS. GS won't do it anymore.
End of Joh48Smith's quote

"GS won't do it anymore" HA! Unless they are contractually bound, and I have yet to hear of a single case of a game company suing a distributor because of the release date. To make things worse SD will lose more money by not having GS distribute for them then a few canceled pre-orders. Where is the gain? Now lets say GS, and EBGames do it, and SD sues, the two biggest distributors won't sell your game anymore? Where do you make money?

 

Microsoft is doing the smart thing. All games shipped pre-release will be encrypted. After release date online decryption will happen and you can play the game. That only solves the pre-release issue, nobody gets sued, and the customer loses since now they must be online to install a game they bought pre-release and it is not really that big a deal.

Reply #16 Top

"GS won't do it anymore" HA! Unless they are contractually bound, and I have yet to hear of a single case of a game company suing a distributor because of the release date. To make things worse SD will lose more money by not having GS distribute for them then a few canceled pre-orders. Where is the gain? Now lets say GS, and EBGames do it, and SD sues, the two biggest distributors won't sell your game anymore? Where do you make money?
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Even if GS gets sued they will still sell Stardock products.Why? Because they make money from them. Gamestop isnt a charity and arnt going to stop selling Stardock products because they hold a grudge. If it makes them money and then thats what they will do.

Reply #17 Top

Quoting Kyanar, reply 14

Unfortunately no.  Retail keys are actually valid right now, unlike pre-order keys.  Which is annoying, because I really want to download that update so Impulse stops spamming me about it.
End of Kyanar's quote

You're going to have to do a full reinstall anyways when the release version comes out, so just uninstall.

Reply #18 Top

Microsoft is doing the smart thing. All games shipped pre-release will be encrypted. After release date online decryption will happen and you can play the game. That only solves the pre-release issue, nobody gets sued, and the customer loses since now they must be online to install a game they bought pre-release and it is not really that big a deal.
End of quote

 

No, that's called the stupid thing because not everyone has internet access :P

Reply #19 Top

Um...

Quoting Ron, reply 18

Microsoft is doing the smart thing. All games shipped pre-release will be encrypted. After release date online decryption will happen and you can play the game. That only solves the pre-release issue, nobody gets sued, and the customer loses since now they must be online to install a game they bought pre-release and it is not really that big a deal.
 

No, that's called the stupid thing because not everyone has internet access
End of Ron's quote

 

For stardock this makes perfect sense. Impulse = online. Games like Gal Civ, Gal Civ 2, Sins, and Demigod are ALL games centered around multiplayer. If they lose 1 or 2 sales due to people not having internet connection the money they lose from lost pre-sales justifies it finanically. Didn't Frogboy say it himself that that is why they don't really care about people pirating the games? Because those people will want to buy the games for the main part of the game, the multiplayer, or they wont so its really not a lost sale.

 

Same goes for any game that focuses on multiplayer. Would you buy Dawn of War 2 if u could not play multiplayer? I don't think so, so it does not matter that their DRM requires you to be online to install.

Reply #20 Top

Quoting DalzK, reply 16

Even if GS gets sued they will still sell Stardock products.Why? Because they make money from them. Gamestop isnt a charity and arnt going to stop selling Stardock products because they hold a grudge. If it makes them money and then thats what they will do.
End of DalzK's quote

You are right. Business is business emotions and grudges can't play into it, but if GS's board of directors got a slight pay decrease due to a law suit you shal see the grudge take off. But unfortunately is this a risk SD is willing to take?

Reply #21 Top

You are right. Business is business emotions and grudges can't play into it, but if GS's board of directors got a slight pay decrease due to a law suit you shal see the grudge take off. But unfortunately is this a risk SD is willing to take?
End of quote

Dont worry no one will get sued enough that GS shall have a grudge take off. And yes its a risk SD are willing to take, but the risk is literally non-existance. By not selling Stardock products because of the lawsuit they will just loose more money, which is not what Gamestop wants.

Reply #22 Top

Dont worry no one will get sued enough that GS shall have a grudge take off. And yes its a risk SD are willing to take, but the risk is literally non-existance. By not selling Stardock products because of the lawsuit they will just loose more money, which is not what Gamestop wants.
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Let's be clear here, no one is going to be suing anyone. It doesn't work that way, especially since Gamestop's initial order was only a few thousand units, there just won't be that many people with the game.  We're extremely unhappy about it but there are other ways to address this than lawsuits.

Reply #23 Top

Quoting Frogboy, reply 22

 We're extremely unhappy about it but there are other ways to address this than lawsuits.
End of Frogboy's quote

Cake will solve any problem at any place.

 

Cake solves everything!

Reply #24 Top

LOL @ Cerulean.

And Frogboy I hope you guys get some sort of compensation because what gamestop did was really not fair.

Reply #25 Top

Even if Gamestop doesn't do anything to compensate Stardock, I wouldn't be surprised if they got fewer sales in the future because of angry Stardock fans :P