Who is the Weakest Link?

Out of all the Demigods, which is the Strongest and which is the Weakest?  Mainly looking at which is considered the weakest one and why, but also an idea of which is the strongest and why...

 

Light Assassins:

-Rook>,  giant walking fortress that can destroy buildings and build additional Towers of Light

-Regulus>, crossbow wielding angel additionally can set proxy mines and has long range snipe

Dark Assassins:

-Unclean Beast>, poisoness attacks, melee, and it's unclean (don't know much, havent' played it)

-Torchbearer>, Fire ice or both for this caster type which has lots of AoE (area of effect) attacks and a few single targe power attacks

Light Generals:

-Oak>, has minions (duh) but can summon more minions through setting flag on ground and having enemies die within range of flag (30% chance) also has shield thingy an AoE attack and is mostly melee oriented

-Sedna>, minion controller with similar to most all generals (another one I have yet to fully play and grasp)

Dark Generals:

-Vampire Lord>, minion person that's melee type (unsure specific mechanics because haven't played)

-Queen of Thorns>, minion controller can kill/absorb minions for more health, bubbly, and is plant obsessed. Attacks are ranged, but are just vines that go through the ground

 

Being that I play for Light on the Pantheon, I've personally found Regulus a bit on the weaker side.  Relying mostly on +weapon damage items to do useful damage on bow attacks, and with limited to almost no AOE attacks, going against  a General or any group of upgraded creeps is just ..bad.  The only really good thing about him is doing that snipe attack from over 1/2 the map away, however FoW (fog of war) screws that up most the time.   But, that might just be that I'm playing him wrong or something else.

For the strongest (only of the Light, of course) I find a tie between the Rook and Oak.  Each has their own perks and are very good at what they do, it's just situational. The Oak has a cool AoE heal thingy that relies on killing enemies, so getting 20-30 creeps around him and doing the AoE attack will trigger the AoE heal very nicely (that's if the AoE attack has been upgraded a few times over).  Put that with having the flag to summon spirits and the Oak makes his own army while taking out the enemies.   As for the Rook, he's a freakin' fortress, what more is needed?  Adds catapults, arrow tower, and light crystal to him and he can't be stopped (well, he can, but you know what I mean), especially with added summoning Towers of Light (highest rank is awsome if a player can get all 8 summoned and chained in the same area).  Only major down side of him is he's so  slow (both in movement and his hammer smash attack).

 

So, what's your opinion and thoughts and the Demigods?

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Reply #1 Top

Do Demigod is the weakest if played right imo.  Especially who your teammates are and the opponent.

Reply #2 Top

Torch Bearer AI, by far the weakest. I once sneezed and it telefragged my friend in my base.

Reply #3 Top

I agree with Exile. They are all useful in some form or shape. Reg is actually great at killing demigods if played correctly and his mines are an amazing aoe that when used correctly can be used to both kill demigods or creeps. Thus, he's not nearly as weak as you think.

The balance in this game is actually very good. If any demigod would be considered "weak", it would be Queen of Thorns. Even then, she's not that. Her creeping ability is one of the best in the game, her shield saves lives, and she can devastate towers. All these are powerful in their own way, even if her Demigod killing power is likely the worst of them all.

 

Basically, I don't think there's a strongest or a weakest demigod. Just skilled players and those with less skill in varying degrees.

Reply #5 Top

They are all useful, but I think the ones that rely on damage spells have the biggest setback in long games.

If your Torchbearer, that 1k fireball doesn't really do jack if the game lasts to where everyone is level 15+. He is a beast til the end though after people start getting good gear.

Reply #6 Top

I think Oak is probably the strongest now.

 

It's hard to tell, the better players need to play against each otehr and see.  What I think is the best might simply be the best at racking up kills against noobs.

Reply #7 Top

i cant tell, everyone i play is bad...

Reply #8 Top

Hmmm, i think the only DG that is kinda weak is the Queen of Thorns. The rest of them are pretty balanced, they all *can* be powerfull, the weakest link is only the player, imo...

Reply #9 Top

I chose the light side of the pantheon, so I'll comment on their Demigods, starting from the best:

Oak: Oak is one of the best, he can go toe to toe with the assasins and still summon units like a general, requiring only moderate mirco-management to perform well.

Regulus: Though not as good as Oak at clearing out masses of small units, he's just as competent at taking down demigods. However, I haven't tried the mines for AOE yet, I've focused on range+sniping thus far. Requires moderate to high micro-management for best effect.

The Rook: Big, slow, and tough. Not really all that tough, come to that, and easily outmanuvered by dark Demigods. Very good against the small units and towers. Requires low to moderate micro-management.

Sedna: Haven't played her, but she seems a combat medic whose primary strength lies in her yetis. useful to stick with her if you're injured or posioned.

Reply #10 Top

Queen of Thorns feels very weak. I don't know if she is, but she feels that way. Can't damage for jack.

Reply #11 Top

"Being that I play for Light on the Pantheon, I've personally found Regulus a bit on the weaker side.  Relying mostly on +weapon damage items to do useful damage on bow attacks, and with limited to almost no AOE attacks, going against  a General or any group of upgraded creeps is just ..bad."

Ahem.  (deep breath) Regs has these things he can throw called  MINES!

I mean, honestly.  (Also, MotB on the General, and RF at the end of the AF path.)  A properly executed MotB/Mines/RF combo will completely eviscerate ANY General's minions and leave the General themselves open to a good 4-5 AF powered shots to finish.

"Limited to almost no AoE attacks" my Aunt Edith.  Sheesh. <_<

Reply #12 Top

no seriously how can anyone tell?

where do all the cool kids play?

Reply #14 Top

Quoting AngryZealot, reply 10
Queen of Thorns feels very weak. I don't know if she is, but she feels that way. Can't damage for jack.
End of AngryZealot's quote

 

Quoting Dead, reply 8
Hmmm, i think the only DG that is kinda weak is the Queen of Thorns. The rest of them are pretty balanced, they all *can* be powerfull, the weakest link is only the player, imo...
End of Dead's quote

 

She's not weak, as I pointed out:

Quoting Cerulean_Shaman, reply 3
If any demigod would be considered "weak", it would be Queen of Thorns. Even then, she's not that. Her creeping ability is one of the best in the game, her shield saves lives, and she can devastate towers. All these are powerful in their own way, even if her Demigod killing power is likely the worst of them all.

 

End of Cerulean_Shaman's quote

  QoT is a demigod that does a better job not dying and supporting other demigod than actually killing demigods. Don't mistake that for weakness, because you're just leaving yourself open for loss.

Rook or UB + A QoT destroys souls, if they are both good. -1000+ armor + bubble lets the melee happy Rook or UB go to town.

Reply #15 Top

Dude you did not just say Regulus is weak!

Land down the 4 mines right on the enemy, snipe him, but the betrayer mark on, he hurts himself even more, finish off with another snipe.

Mines are the perfect AoE, you can take out a whole wave with just one good mine throw/plant

Reply #16 Top

lol Azrailx

i know what u mean there are ALOT of new people that just arent that good at it right now

but i only play pantheon even if it isnt quite right,but i sure do go to town on people with erebus lol, but i think ull find alot of the better, or beta*_* , players in iether custom or on one of the 3rd party prgrams like hamatchi or whatever and gameranger i think the other one was
 

Reply #17 Top

Quoting Cerulean_Shaman, reply 14
Quoting Cerulean_Shaman, reply 3If any demigod would be considered "weak", it would be Queen of Thorns. Even then, she's not that. Her creeping ability is one of the best in the game, her shield saves lives, and she can devastate towers. All these are powerful in their own way, even if her Demigod killing power is likely the worst of them all.
End of Cerulean_Shaman's quote

Yes I know, but Frogboy said all Demigods should feel powerful. QoT feels very gimp when you play her.

Reply #18 Top

Quoting AngryZealot, reply 17



Quoting Cerulean_Shaman,
reply 14
Quoting Cerulean_Shaman, reply 3If any demigod would be considered "weak", it would be Queen of Thorns. Even then, she's not that. Her creeping ability is one of the best in the game, her shield saves lives, and she can devastate towers. All these are powerful in their own way, even if her Demigod killing power is likely the worst of them all.


Yes I know, but Frogboy said all Demigods should feel powerful. QoT feels very gimp when you play her.
End of AngryZealot's quote

Oh? Walking into a swarm of creeps and toppling them all with ease doesn't feel powerful? Destroying towers with ease and 0 danger from them isn't powerful? Smiling as a hammer, snipe, fireball, [insert other power move], hits your shield and does no damage doesn't feel powerful? I understand "loldps" is what people consider power most of the time, the fact is that it is not simply true. Defense and support are the most overlooked faces of power and every bit as important, more in some cases, as offense.

She's very powerful in my humble opinion, her pushing ability is probably the best in the game and she can topple towers as well as Rook (probably even better early game as rook needs time to be able to survive tower rushes).

Perhaps we have different conceptions of power, but when something called "powerful" hits a wall and doesn't do squat, I'd say that's a powerful wall. Just one small example. In the end it seems as I said, lack of skill rather than any one demigod being powerful or not. You can't blame the demigod for that though.

Reply #19 Top

QoT is SOMEWHAT weak if your teamates suck. :x

She just needs a buff to her open form.. like faster attack speed and another effect to uproot, like creating saplings when a building effected by it is destroyed.

Reply #20 Top

Strongest Assassin: Regulus

Weakest Assassin: All of them besides Regulus. :P

Strongest General: Oak / Erebus

Weakest General: QoT (I can't say anything about Sedna)

 

Of course, when I say weakest I am just saying by comparison they are lesser than the strongest (duh right?). Regulus needs some balancing, and I feel that QoT needs some love as well. QoT is capable, but I feel that her minions are just lacking right now.

Reply #21 Top

Quoting innociv, reply 19
QoT is SOMEWHAT weak if your teamates suck.

She just needs a buff to her open form.. like faster attack speed and another effect to uproot, like creating saplings when a building effected by it is destroyed.
End of innociv's quote

While I disagree that she needs them, those would be interesting effects. If anything, it would be nice if open had a bonus just for the heck of it. It doesn't have to be amazing. I'd say longer range and slightly higher dps. She doesn't need 'em, but I won't complain if she gets them.

 

And any demigod is weak if your team sucks. No one can carry their entire team unless the opposing team sucks just as much and you've been feeding.

Reply #22 Top

Quoting Azrailx, reply 7
i cant tell, everyone i play is bad...
End of Azrailx's quote

That sucks, have you tried playing every type of DG?

Reply #23 Top

Quoting Darkersun, reply 22



Quoting Azrailx,
reply 7
i cant tell, everyone i play is bad...



That sucks, have you tried playing every type of DG?
End of Darkersun's quote

Wasn't he talking about everyone he's playing against, not every demigod he plays?

Reply #24 Top

Quoting Cerulean_Shaman, reply 23

Quoting Darkersun, reply 22


Quoting Azrailx,
reply 7
i cant tell, everyone i play is bad...



That sucks, have you tried playing every type of DG?

Wasn't he talking about everyone he's playing against, not every demigod he plays?
End of Cerulean_Shaman's quote

meybe >.>

Weakest: Rook

Strongest: Erebus or UB

Erebus because he can not only stand toe to toe with most melee demigods but also win the fight. UB because given enough mana and speed trying to escape his harrassment tactics is extremely hard (coming from someone who uses UB like that)

Say rook is the weakest as the only reason his towers are good at all is because you can't kill him fast enough. (Unless you're tb who rips through him like wet paper.) He's very much his name though he's very straight forward. (hurr durr chess pun)

EDIT: although demi's are all very close in strength it was hard to decide.

Reply #25 Top

Quoting ILiekCaek, reply 15
Dude you did not just say Regulus is weak!

Land down the 4 mines right on the enemy, snipe him, but the betrayer mark on, he hurts himself even more, finish off with another snipe.

Mines are the perfect AoE, you can take out a whole wave with just one good mine throw/plant
End of ILiekCaek's quote

 

Ok, I've used the betrayer mark or whatever, even upgraded it, and I personally can not see why it's useful.  It has never killed me a DG.  In fact, the range sucks.  I'd rather throw down another mine or use a potion to heal in that amount of time.