assassins > generals ?

Is it just me or does it seem that assassins are a bit better than generals? I'm new btw so it might be that im doing something wrong. In sp tourney it seems that i can bring a whole lot more whoop ass as an assassin than general. Ive done the sp tourney with 3 assassins and 2 of the generals.

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Reply #1 Top

Generals if played right can be as destructive and evil as assasins. Its all about the skills you pick and if the gear you pick compensate the skills you have chosen. In my opinion oak and the vampire dude is the 2 strongets demigods in the game atm.

Reply #3 Top

From my experiences so far they're pretty balanced.  A good Queen of Thorns can do a ridiculous amount of damage mitigation, and she can clear out an army in seconds.  Lord Erebus is very mobile, and has good crowd control with his Mass Charm.  He also can become quite a demigod killer with Bat Swarm and Vampire Bite.  I haven't played much of Oak or Sedna yet, but from what I've seen playing with/against them, they can also be quite powerful.

 

That said, I find Rook to be the coolest one so far.

Reply #4 Top

No, you just aren't speccing and/or playing your DGs correctly.

If anything, people are saying the opposite, that generals are mostly too powerful compared to assasins.

Reply #5 Top

Quoting scyldSCHEFING, reply 4
No, you just aren't speccing and/or playing your DGs correctly.

If anything, people are saying the opposite, that generals are mostly too powerful compared to assasins.
End of scyldSCHEFING's quote

 

this is what i figured...most likey i'm playing the generals like assassins. I'm gonna troll the strat forums see if i can pick up some tips.

Reply #6 Top

uh

Isn't this the way it is supposed to be?

 

Assassins are anti-demigods and generals are more focused on killing creep and buildings?

Reply #7 Top

Quoting tacomodo, reply 6
uh

Isn't this the way it is supposed to be?

 

Assassins are anti-demigods and generals are more focused on killing creep and buildings?
End of tacomodo's quote

 

That's not how it is currently.  Right now you can spec every General like an assassin if you choose.  I like it though.  I never really liked the idea of playing a weaker demigod with lots of minions.

Reply #8 Top

yea i really find this to be false. if anything the most OP demigods, at the moment, are of the general origin. the only thing is you have to do a tad more thinking and tweaking of specs and equipment before you can get those sort of results. sadly enough, as much as i love playing Erebus, i sense the first sort of patch taht has nerfing will include him for sure.

Reply #9 Top

IMO the only diffrence is that Generals can have minions.  If you want to be a good general it will require more micro than an Assassin.

I think overall Generals offer a little bit deeper game play but at the cost of being more complicated -- examples:

  • A general can go and stand at a flag, while his minions go attack a near by tower.
  • A general can flee, why his minions attack his would be attacker.
  • A general has the option ot purchase idols (which summon more minions).

I personally think they might of had more of a diffrence in beta (with generals being weaker, but made up for it by having minions), but in beta Generals were for the most part underpowered as well.  So with those issues made it so I don't think people liked or enjoyed Generals as much.

I think it was a case where the design on paper looked good but after actually implimenting it, it just wasent working as well as they had hoped.

-Jara

PS: I personally think having the split of Assassins and Generals is still a good thing because overall I think it's good to have some demigod who are less micro intenstive and there will always be people who just want to control a single unit.

Reply #10 Top

Quoting Moonlapse, reply 7

Quoting tacomodo, reply 6uh

Isn't this the way it is supposed to be?

 

Assassins are anti-demigods and generals are more focused on killing creep and buildings?
 

That's not how it is currently.  Right now you can spec every General like an assassin if you choose.  I like it though.  I never really liked the idea of playing a weaker demigod with lots of minions.
End of Moonlapse's quote

it is maybe how they could have been, but the devs decided to change that, i imagine it wasn't fun enough. So the only difference you have to have in mind is that general can summon units and assassins can't that's all (and by the way the devs talked some weeks ago to allow assassins to buy idols).

Reply #11 Top

I really don't think any of the characters are overpowered or underpowered by any significant amount. For every thread about Erebus being overpowered there is a thread about Regulus being overpowered. Then you'll see a thread about the Rook being overpowered. Then there's a thread about oak being overpowered or the unclean beast. I think everything is pretty close to perfectly balanced now. 

Erebus can be countered by silencing. He has pretty low health so silencing him is pretty much a death sentence. The rook is super powerful but he can't run away or fall back to help defend. Regulus is pretty damn weak up close. All the demigods have their weaknesses even though they may seem overpowered in some situations.

Reply #12 Top

With minion idols, generals and assassins are pretty equal.  But now idols are very high dps/heal for their cost early on.

Reply #13 Top

I do think that one thing should be changed though. I would like to see a game option where no 2 people on one side could be the the same character. That would stop the triple Regulus snipe which is pretty cheap. There are probably other cheap things when 2 or 3 of the same character are on the same side that would be helped by this as well. Its annoying to not be able to play as your favorite character every time, but learning other characters gets to be fun too.

Reply #14 Top

I love Oak, I'd marry him if he was real and if I were a girl or gay...but I'm not (and just to cover all my bases, no homo)

-Phal

Reply #15 Top

Quoting saeben, reply 5


this is what i figured...most likey i'm playing the generals like
assassins. I'm gonna troll the strat forums see if i can pick up some
tips.
End of saeben's quote

Err, you can definitely play the generals like assasins and still do well...

Quoting Jaradakar, reply 9
IMO the only diffrence is that Generals can have minions.  If you want to be a good general it will require more micro than an Assassin.

I think overall Generals offer a little bit deeper game play but at the cost of being more complicated -- examples:


A general can go and stand at a flag, while his minions go attack a near by tower.
A general can flee, why his minions attack his would be attacker.
A general has the option ot purchase idols (which summon more minions).

I personally think they might of had more of a diffrence in beta
(with generals being weaker, but made up for it by having minions), but
in beta Generals were for the most part underpowered as well.  So
with those issues made it so I don't think people liked or enjoyed
Generals as much.

I think it was a case where the design on paper looked good but
after actually implimenting it, it just wasent working as well as they
had hoped.

-Jara

PS: I personally think having the split of Assassins and Generals is
still a good thing because overall I think it's good to have some
demigod who are less micro intenstive and there will always be people
who just want to control a single unit.
End of Jaradakar's quote

Um... first of all, generals should hardly ever send their minion cloud away from them, since they essentially always need their general's support to be at all effective.

Secondly, most generals do not have to have minions and can be played as assasins with support abilities.

Reply #16 Top

Assasins and generals are pretty balanced. Its a HUGE generalisation to say one is better than the other.

Reply #18 Top

I guess the way I've been playing. The assassins seemed more straightforward and less micro, which was making it seem that they were more powerful compared to playing a general the same way. Plus I was playing the AI so im sure that dosent help.