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Get the AI out of multi-PLAYER games

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Get the AI out of multi-PLAYER games

from Demigod Forums

Im getting extremely frustrated. Either Tournament or Skirimish, 90% of the games you get stuck with a retarded AI (its not even easy). Theres no way someone can win in a 3v1 with 2 AI-Demigods "RUSHING" towers (since its the only thing they seem to do), getting killed in the process, and once they return to life, they just go ahead and do the same.

I just rather play a 3 vs 1  and get the income of the other 2... not like its gonna make a difference, but at least I know players on the other side wont get a devastator 10 minutes into the game.

Either... DISABLE THE AI PLAYERS OF MULTIPLAYER GAMES or at least SET THEM IN HARD/NIGHTMARE mode.

AT LEAST allow me to select the game type I want... 1v1,  2v2 and so on.

 

Dont know how others feel about it... thats just me

demigod
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Reply #26 from Demigod Forums Top

Quoting ZiberWulf, reply 25
It seems almost every Pantheon game I've played has had AI in it. Sometimes me vs 3 AI. That's not what I clicked the multiplayer button for! It would be good if it was more apparent when players have been raplaced by AIs so that if you want to leave you can. If a player leaves a match IMO there should be the option to end the match there and then and calculate the winning side based on the scores or progress to the objective so far.

 

agreed. hoping to get this soon into the game.

Reply #27 from Demigod Forums Top

/SIGNED

 

retarded 1v2 matches which coulda been won becomes a loss due to AI feeders. fucking anoying.

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Reply #28 from Demigod Forums Top

Instead of removing the DG from the match completely you could split up his gold between the human players and replace him with an hard AI who gives no gold or xp when killed!

Reply #30 from Demigod Forums Top

Quoting SThaler, reply 3
Instead of removing the DG from the match completely you could split up his gold between the human players and replace him with an hard AI who gives no gold or xp when killed!

Ok that was example of a really BAD idea.

Reply #31 from Demigod Forums Top

Quoting Sorceresss, reply 10
That one, last evening, stretched-on for 98 minutes, at normal speed :

http://pantheon.demigodthegame.com/game/331449/player/11664/

It was originally a 4 v 4.

Everything looked great in the game-setup lobby : all 8 green pings -- nobody above 175 ms, and most below 100.

One player of my team8 dropped out during the loading of the game : we had to start with a normal A.I. 

But the game lingered on as a stalemate. Then, another of my team8 dropped. 

It was then 4 humans v 2 humans + 2 A.I. for the last 38 minutes : of course, we lost.

My remaining team8 complained on the all-player chat that I was not an "extraordinary" player, so he felt like he was playing with 3 comps. Not very nice. I was tempted to "rage-quit" to protest his lack of manners, but I replied nothing and stuck to the bitter end -- 98 minutes after the start of the match.

My team8 was not happy because I didn't seem to engage into frontline offense. I can't do that as a fragile TB, especially when I have to run around and plug defensive holes on the wide Leviathan map, because I'm stuck with 1 or 2 comp allies which do their own thing (that do not include smart defense). My frustrated team8 did not seem to perceive that I was working very hard to stop enemy-minion pushes (with catapults & Giants) towards our base, when I was not trying to recapture the left-side portal. I didn't stop working hard for 98 minutes, and the end-game stats proved that I did my fair share.

But when you have 1 (and eventuall 2) comp(s) on your team against 4 humans (three of them quite good), it's a lot of stress & toil, especially when the final outcome is fatally obvious.

I stuck to the bitter end, and I didn't quit. The 2 comp allies were incompetent, and my human ally was an ungrateful team8 who prefered exchanging sarcastic barbs & banter with the other team, on the chat -- sometimes at my expense.

They wanted to make a 5 v 5. I knew from the very start that even a 4 v 4 would be dicey, especially when playing with total strangers. The comp allies were mediocre, but my human allies lacked an elementary sense of fellowship. Some macho players expect that everyone on their team must act as a very offensive killing machine -- which is not my chosen style as a Frost TB (besides the fact that girls don't have a lot of testosterone).

Yes, I'm bitter : my evening more or less wasted in a 98-minute-long unfair match-up.

 

I've played with you before. Your not a bad TB team8 was a douche. I would have quit 2 AI 2 humans vs 4 humans. Nah no thanks...I rage quit when people start feeding. If you die 5x pre level 10 the game is over IMO. You just gave him enough gold to suit up and rape ur face off

Reply #32 from Demigod Forums Top

Quoting Mortissia, reply 5

Quoting SThaler, reply 3Instead of removing the DG from the match completely you could split up his gold between the human players and replace him with an hard AI who gives no gold or xp when killed!

Ok that was example of a really BAD idea.

i have to agree there  ui would be happy with a hard ai

Reply #33 from Demigod Forums Top

I'm going to sign this.

 

AI has no place in MULTIPLAYER. There's simply no need for it either.

 

The match making system really needs a do over. It's pretty appauling as it is.

Reply #34 from Demigod Forums Top

Agreed. The AI is useless and no sensible person would have even come up with the "hey, if someone drops lets put the AI in its place" or "hey, lets match people against AI all day long" Just kill the whole thing. People would rather not play than play the AI =P

Reply #36 from Demigod Forums Top

It is IMPORTANT to remove AI control from dropped/left players as well in custom/pantheon games.  I would much, much, much rather play a 2 vs 3 or whatever than have to deal with an AI that is feeding gold to the other team.  Do exactly what DotA does in this situation.  The dropped players items/gold go to the remaining players and the dropped players character control is given to the team members of the dropped player.

 

Adding AI control to dropped players 100% ruins every game I have played.  I was in a 3v3 yesterday where AI took control of a dropped player that was 0 - 0.  At the end of the game the players that stayed and played with the AI went 1-4 and 2-3.  The AI went 0-15.  The AI controlled player fed us so much gold that the remaining good players couldn't overcome and ended up losing a game the may have other won. 

PLEASE REMOVE AI CONTROL OF DROPPED PLAYERS.  THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT! 

Reply #37 from Demigod Forums Top

I'm bumping this threas, as the AI are back in pantheon games with a vengence. The bad thing is the game matchmaking sometimes doesn't wait for human players, it just starts a game with AI in it after about 1 minute. Every other game has some ai in it, such as just now me and 2 ai vs 3 players. Needless to say I conceded the game, as such as game is no fun at all, just a waste of everyones time.

Reply #38 from Demigod Forums Top

/NoAI

try it.

Reply #39 from Demigod Forums Top

i dont care how old this thread is.

/SIGNED

Reply #41 from Demigod Forums Top

Well bear in mind that if your team is all AIs you can just hit concede to end the game. If you do it within three minutes the game won't count and you can either queue up or do something else. Sadly if you were stuck with AIs in the first place there's a good chance it means that there aren't enough people online to fill out your team.

They just fixed the players in queue indicator so that should help us all to gauge the likelihood of getting those AI partners.

Also next patch the reward gained from killing AI players will be dramatically reduced and supposedly there are more AI improvements. It's still not ideal, but it might not be worse than a 3v2 or 2v1 if it's done well enough. We'll see.

Reply #42 from Demigod Forums Top

/signed

 

A buff or extra gold should be added instead.

Reply #43 from Demigod Forums Top

Still getting nacer appear in pantheon games. Result - I quit before it starts.

Reply #44 from Demigod Forums Top

Yeah, I picked light this time and I'm sorely regretting it. When I chose light the sides were even, now there's a good 20% more light than dark and the result is AI, AI, AI, AI, AI.

It's really disappointing to see 8 people in queue and still end up 3v1 and then having the guy on the other team quit instantly (not that I blame him) and wait in queue again only to thave the same thing happen.

Reply #45 from Demigod Forums Top

Its so easy to set AI to hard minimum.  If your opponent has 400 games and 80%+ win rate, set the AI to nightmare.  At least it would make the player with AI teamate to consider staying.  Make it so!

Reply #46 from Demigod Forums Top

The way I see it with or without ai, you are still going to be at a big disadvantage if a player drops.