Demigods too slow // the whole gameplay can be a bit faster

The whole gameplay, huh?

The game isn't slow.  WC3 and DotA are just fast.  If you want things faster, just host your own match and change the game speed option, but good luck getting people who would want to play that.  Also, if you're playing with just one hand, you're not being very effective.  You need those ability and item hotkeys, and camera movement is done more easily with the keyboard hand, too.

Dont get me wrong i dont mean that i play effective or ineffective. Its just that the speed of the game is forcing me to

And game speed fast is just a fastforwarded version of the current game i want the speed of the heroes in "fast" mode but not the creeps and the cooldowns

I'm thinking about watching replays often. When i watch a Wc3 replay or a cs game on ESL.TV its fast and fun to watch but i'm not sure if DG in the current state would be fun for me to watch :/

While movement speed is slower compared to DotA, you have to keep in mind that the maps are typically much smaller.  The time to get your Demigod/Hero out into the field and back to base is about equal.  If you speed things up too much then the heat of combat can become too frantic and lose some of the strategy.

With that said, I do enjoy playing games on "fast" every once in a while.

Those games are much faster, yes however this is not DotA and this is not trying to be DotA. This is Demigod, and Demigod is a slower paced game and I think it works in the games favour. Besides, your suggestion has already been provided - play Custom Games with the speed maxed.

As others have said, the option is there, but it takes away from the game when multiplayer (has its uses in single player imo).  The only thing I think could be a tad faster (and I mean... a TAD) is the hero moving speed.  Not affecting any other element of the game whatsoever, but say if all heroes were naturally 5-10% faster whilst leaving the other elements of the game alone.

But I don't even really feel the need for that either, as its only an issue early game.  You already have speed increase items that give other benifits as well so you don't even have to sacrifice much for it. 

You could also consider using the teleport favor item more often if you really do want to race around the place.

Well i must agree with this dudo cause yah know when i see someone playing that chick on the tiger i always see it like... omg slowpoke if the game is really freakin slow... cause have you ever watched her? her tiger walks ( panther i dunno) it walks.... why cant it LOOK as if its running ore so if it even looks running but isnt walking any faster it might even look faster... yah know... ^^

why would it walk its a big beast and is strong and the girl isnt fat ore summat... yeah oke she got big breasts but those dont weight THATTA much...

the fighting speed the skill speed is all oke but i think they can do something aBOUT THE walk speed put it slight upward and make some characters LOOK as if theyre running makes chase "scenes" much better.

ohwell just advice ^^

the tiger does run if u go at around 13 movespeed...

I have to disagree on this. I am glad this game is slower than dota because I much enjoy the strategy and do not wish to get ache in my fingers just to play decently. I don't want to ruin your idea, just want to point out that there are benefits from having a slower game aswell.

Imho the default speed is just perfect. But everyone can still play on 'fast' if they want, at least in Custom Games.

Movespeed 7 was tried during the Demigod beta. It was found that anything affecting speed became too effective, and it reduced strategy by favoring movement and slow builds even more and making it extremely easy to retreat from any situation.

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The game is like this now.  The game basically rewards you for hiding behind towers, not fully engaging, just kinda sneak hit-and-run playing, regardless of the DG you play.

And that is a game balance issue, not a game speed issue.  I agree with the original poster: the game feels like wading chest deep through wet sand.

As soon as I saw your post I knew you were a DOTa player - why do DOTa players feel the need for the game to play like DOTa - its Demigod!!

I have no issues with the speed, get swift anklet and boots of speed if you feel they are too slow. Quite happy with the gameplay

I have felt that the length a game takes and the speed of gameplay is slow. I am not a DotA player but I have played many other RTS games such as Rise of Legends, Age of Empire 2, all of the Battle for Middle Earth series and red alert. All of the previously stated games can have games that last 5 minutes to hours.

Demigod lacks the 5 minute games where you are UTTERLY better than the other person or team. I like demigod but I don't like playing games for 45-60 minutes every game. As for the gameplay being slow I don't really care its the length of the game thats got me kind of down. Maybe speeding game speed up would shorten game length.

At the moment a 3v3 and a 4v4 is lasting usually between 30 minutes to 45 minutes. Rarely it is higher but I have also had 15 minute games. I can't see how this could be speeded up without impacting on the gameplay. I don't see this game as being any slower and it's probably faster than RTS games such as Company of Heroes or Warhammer

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I don't know.  I'm getting used to the slow pace of the game from repeated playing.  It's a great game and I'm liking it more all the time, but it really does move slowly, especially compared to Warcraft 3.  Not DOTA, which I don't like at all, just regular Warcraft 3 frozen throne.

The game speeds up as it escalates.

Everyone's movement starts out slow, but around lvl 2 a lot of people have boots of speed and maybe even some speed buff abilities. By level 4 most people have wand of speed. By level 10 to 15 (depending on how many people die) you'll start to see people buy journeyman's treads (+15% movement, and a +50% movement proc that has a %chance of being triggered when you get hit..i.e. walk through an archer tower or a bunch of creeps for a second and you'll suddenly start moving at the speed of light).

but the game gots an extremly big touch of DotA... Isn't the iidea for the gameplay bye DotA? please don'T misunderstand me i like Demigod really much

And to the game speed i would say it is just perfekt as it is now... and the demigods altso become much faster later in the game...   some maps are altso just to small for fast demigods.

Demigod lacks the 5 minute games where you are UTTERLY better than the other person or team. I like demigod but I don't like playing games for 45-60 minutes every game. As for the gameplay being slow I don't really care its the length of the game thats got me kind of down. Maybe speeding game speed up would shorten game length

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Learn to close out games. My average game takes about 20-25 minutes if we are winning, never more than 40 if things are evenly matched. Stop buying artifacts and start buying flag locks.

I'm with woppin on this one. Plenty of players forget that Demigod Conquest mode (or DotA for that matter) isn't just about killing other Demigods. It's about destroying that Citadel. Learn to push early and push fast.

Besides, I think you would agree that it's completely unrealistic to expect any Demigod game to last just five minutes, unless it's full of drop outs. If you truly "don't feel like" playing long drawn out games, get your team together, and work fast to kill their Citadel. You can also host custom games and change every game setting to result in a fast game, but as mentioned before, good luck getting players to agree to those terms.

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Do you even know how I play???? don't assume my games last 40-60 minutes because I buy artifacts. The games I am in just last that long.

Starcraft is a fast game because everyone who playing choose the fastest speed.

When the speed is set for a slower game I usually win. On fastest I rarely win.

Some players are good at the speed thing and I believe they will always want a faster game.

Some players are good at the strategy part and they generaly like the slow pace.

Dota is much faster than this and that is the reson why I do not play dota.

It is good that not all games are the same.

Just because something is fast doesn't mean it doesn't require strategy.  A good SC player on fastest is going to kill anyone on a slower setting because he'll be even better.  You have zero advantage over a better player if it's slower, you are not a "genius strategy master" that is only unable to use this skill due to the game being too fast. 

The same goes for Demigod, slow does not equal more strategic and fast does not equal less strategic. 

With that said, given the map sizes compared to dota, I don't really think much more demigod movement speed is needed.  I don't think the movement speed is what makes the game feel "too slow."  I have played against people who push really early, and this makes the game feel fast enough.  I think most players are generally just not good enough to play the game to where it feels fast enough (myself included.)  Think of some of the games though where a team did a really strong push that killed someone early, took a flag, and then took towers down very quickly.  This kind of initiative is required to make the game more exciting.  When neither team manages to do this, it feels slow because you'll have both sides just whack-a-moling flags back and forth while trying to neutral creep.  You'll often even have, at low levels, demigods from both sides creeping in the same spot and not engaging each other, simply because it's not worth the mana and not worth wasting time that could otherwise be spent creeping.

i take it you dont interrupt a 0.5 second heal?