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[Balancing] HP Items should be nerfed

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[Balancing] HP Items should be nerfed

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Hi guys,

I think atm, stacking HP Items is much too strong, specially vs. a Torchbearer. Compared to gloves (DPS) HP Items are just imba.

 

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Reply #76 from Demigod Forums Top

The reason why people are seeing Health stacking as so important, is because, of yes. World of Warcraft, where health stacking is the be all and end all of pvp.(along with resilience etc)

But, as people have stated, Health stacking is map, dg, and build dependant, for instance, health stacking on a rook combat build, is a little bit pointless, it may be good early game, but late game, you're just going to be a punching bag.

Same as health stacking on a QoT is absolutely pointless in most situations.

Same with TB, as late game, when you're sat there with 13k health and 3 damage abilities, someone with more constant damage will rip you apart, or someone with interupts will fuck you up, no matter how much health you have.

Its a personal choice on health stacking, but sometimes, carrying speed, and offensive abilities is worth the trade off. Especially with some DG's late game.

Reply #77 from Demigod Forums Top

Quoting Aviyur, reply 1
The reason why people are seeing Health stacking as so important, is because, of yes. World of Warcraft, where health stacking is the be all and end all of pvp.(along with resilience etc)
End of Aviyur's quote

 

What? Ridiculous, it has nothing to do with WoW.

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Reply #78 from Demigod Forums Top

Quoting ItchyDustbin, reply 2

Quoting Aviyur, reply 1The reason why people are seeing Health stacking as so important, is because, of yes. World of Warcraft, where health stacking is the be all and end all of pvp.(along with resilience etc)

 

What? Ridiculous, it has nothing to do with WoW.
End of ItchyDustbin's quote

Trust me, it does, a lot of players percieve that in PvP Health > all. Give it some time, and we'll swing back round to damage stacking > all, then speed > all.

The circle of Warcraft(including WoW and Dota.)

Reply #79 from Demigod Forums Top

Quoting Misfortune, reply 25
Cmmon, leave him alone babling about his 10k ub opponent and not being able to match it with his TB, making a case for his HP items.

I've personally been in enough 1v1 brawls with Fire TB to know for sure that no HP stacking stands against his sustained late-game damage.  Thats at least one build of TB that doesn't suffer against HP stacking.  Add to that a team with stuns/snares and Fire TB is actually your best asset against HP stackers (please don't forget armor stacks too...).

I've been in 1 game where a UB player managed to get to 11K hp (same team though).  That game, I as TB had 13,4K hp, 73.9% armor, 25% damage mitigation and 25% evasion.  Only shows how ridiculous 150K+ gold can be...

UPS. didn't mean to bump...
End of Misfortune's quote

 

OK, lets paly a 1vs1, I´ll take UB with health stacking you will die, even if I never played UB before. You take TB.

Reply #80 from Demigod Forums Top

even if I never played UB before. You take TB.
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Do you have some kind of time machine so that you can travel back and find a version of yourself that never played UB, have you found a way to unplay games of DG, or do you just not know whether you've played UB?

Reply #81 from Demigod Forums Top

Ice TB gives me the most problems as a beast. I get less kills against them than ANY other demigod when they have support. OmgzZ he wants to 1v1 you in a team game! so proZ.

Reply #82 from Demigod Forums Top

Quoting JuareZz, reply 4


OK, lets paly a 1vs1, I´ll take UB with health stacking you will die, even if I never played UB before. You take TB.
End of JuareZz's quote

I'll 1v1 you, but I take Sedna.

Reply #83 from Demigod Forums Top

OK, lets paly a 1vs1, I´ll take UB with health stacking you will die, even if I never played UB before. You take TB.
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I joined a game hosted by you yesterday wanting to play against you.  You bailed out pretty quickly when I didn't want to be on your team.

But sure, any time.  Let's screw around and do a 1v1 :P

Reply #84 from Demigod Forums Top

Quoting WickedBear, reply 6
Ice TB gives me the most problems as a beast. I get less kills against them than ANY other demigod when they have support. OmgzZ he wants to 1v1 you in a team game! so proZ.
End of WickedBear's quote

Playing teamgame means that any player of your team can beat any player of OP team. It's a matter of balance. If this Rule not works then U cant tell about game balance. I'm pretty sure there's no UB that can beat LE with minions build or good Sedna in 1v1 game. So the same situation will be in team game where U'll need at least two teammates to get Sedna back from position if U're not Sedna or LE. Something like that.

Reply #85 from Demigod Forums Top

Quoting Misfortune, reply 8

OK, lets paly a 1vs1, I´ll take UB with health stacking you will die, even if I never played UB before. You take TB.
I joined a game hosted by you yesterday wanting to play against you.  You bailed out pretty quickly when I didn't want to be on your team.

But sure, any time.  Let's screw around and do a 1v1
End of Misfortune's quote

 

Didnt play since 3 days...

Reply #86 from Demigod Forums Top

Quoting Auro5on1c, reply 9


Playing teamgame means that any player of your team can beat any player of OP team. It's a matter of balance. If this Rule not works then U cant tell about game balance. I'm pretty sure there's no UB that can beat LE with minions build or good Sedna in 1v1 game. So the same situation will be in team game where U'll need at least two teammates to get Sedna back from position if U're not Sedna or LE. Something like that.
End of Auro5on1c's quote

:(O  was that english?

Reply #87 from Demigod Forums Top

Quoting Auro5on1c, reply 9

Quoting WickedBear, reply 6Ice TB gives me the most problems as a beast. I get less kills against them than ANY other demigod when they have support. OmgzZ he wants to 1v1 you in a team game! so proZ.
Playing teamgame means that any player of your team can beat any player of OP team. It's a matter of balance. If this Rule not works then U cant tell about game balance. I'm pretty sure there's no UB that can beat LE with minions build or good Sedna in 1v1 game. So the same situation will be in team game where U'll need at least two teammates to get Sedna back from position if U're not Sedna or LE. Something like that.
End of Auro5on1c's quote

 

wat.

8C

Reply #88 from Demigod Forums Top

Quoting Auro5on1c, reply 9

Playing teamgame means that any player of your team can beat any player of OP team. It's a matter of balance. If this Rule not works then U cant tell about game balance. I'm pretty sure there's no UB that can beat LE with minions build or good Sedna in 1v1 game. So the same situation will be in team game where U'll need at least two teammates to get Sedna back from position if U're not Sedna or LE. Something like that.
End of Auro5on1c's quote

 

You have no idea what you're talking about.

Reply #89 from Demigod Forums Top

Quoting WickedBear, reply 11

Quoting Auro5on1c, reply 9
 was that english?
End of WickedBear's quote

I'm not good in English ... sorry ...

2 RapierX :

Oh, sorry. Just forgot that only U know all the true.

Reply #90 from Demigod Forums Top

I'm not good in English ... sorry ...
End of quote
Then don't use words like "U" instead of "you" because it makes it look like you're a native english speaker who just didn't try very hard.

Reply #91 from Demigod Forums Top

Quoting Obscenitor, reply 15

I'm not good in English ... sorry ...Then don't use words like "U" instead of "you" because it makes it look like you're a native english speaker who just didn't try very hard.
End of Obscenitor's quote

Dont tell me what to do and how to do . Ok ?

Reply #92 from Demigod Forums Top

Quoting Auro5on1c, reply 16

Quoting Obscenitor, reply 15
I'm not good in English ... sorry ...Then don't use words like "U" instead of "you" because it makes it look like you're a native english speaker who just didn't try very hard.
Dont tell me what to do and how to do . Ok ?
End of Auro5on1c's quote

... likewise?

Reply #93 from Demigod Forums Top

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