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[quote who="Deepjay" reply="3" id="2164220"]Hang on, what's the deal with favour items? How are you LOSING items? I thought you just earned favour points which you then used to be able to buy favour items ONE per round in each game? Can you actually get items and keep them through it or what? i don't get it.. *edit - dont get it as until present have barely ever been able to actually get into a pantheon game with humans.[/quote]Once you buy a favor item, you get i

If you play Pantheon you'll lose all your favor items and points. I avoided it for a week, then decided to play it today, and lost 5000 favor worth of items. I'm not even going to touch Pantheon now until favor is fixed. So, you have been warned.

Starting out? Depends on what DG I'm playing and what DGs I'm against. Every DG can sit around there tower and just leech exp from the creeps. You don't have to actually kill the creeps to get exp. Early on towers do 200 damage a shot, so no one will dare go near them. If the enemy is killing your creeps, just hang around tower, and it'll kill the enemy creeps and you get exp.

That's the thing, unlike Regulus you can skip his normal attacks. It's very viable to just buff TB up with +mana regen and +hp/armour items, completely skipping +damage items.

[quote who="Teseer" reply="11" id="2163154"] Quoting innociv, reply 10 Aye. They might of overnerfed him SLIGHTLY. All I think he needs is +100 more base armor(it was reduced 200). But he's not like unplayably bad or anything. Thank you! ~8% dmg reduction is totally not Rookish![/quote]It's not 8%. It's a static 1% hp bonus per 25 armour. He's losing 152ehp, which is like 1 attack. Also, him gaining +100 armour is like half an attack (76ehp

Torchbearer is meh? Tell that to the Erebus I played the other day who I repeatedly killed. Same goes for Rook being "meh". Tell it to the people who find I've taken one of their portals (and destroyed 4+ towers in the process) at level 8. After that they probably thought Rook is OP. Sedna terrible? Pair her up with a high DPS char (Torchbearer, Regulus, UB) and all of a sudden she's terribly dangerous, since you'll have immense trouble surviving long enough to kil

[quote who="UhelligGudn" reply="12" id="2161908"] It seems apparent from this that if you are against primarily melee heroes, it is best to go with Armor as it gives you a significant boost against melee damage. .[/quote]This isn't quite true. e.g. (ehp = hp including armour reduction) There's 2 armours you can buy. One gives 500hp and 750 armour, the other gives 1050 armour. Lets say you have 4000hp and 1000 armour. The 1050a one will give you +1680ehp. Now, the

[quote who="transitive" reply="10" id="2161450"]its actually a common misconception that a linear scale is somehow the "normal" progression for armor and the the logarithmic scale has "diminishing returns". this isn't actually the case if the quantity you measure is time to live, as opposed to damage reduced. this is due to the fact that increasing levels of damage mitigation are compounded on top of existing mitigation. going from 80% to 90% mitigation doesn't increase time to live by just 1

[quote who="Ke5trel" reply="7" id="2160868"]The point of this post is that focus-fire won't work very well against a shield team - and that might be a problem later because it's what we are all using to kill teams right now. You find the weak link and kill them first. A team like this doesn't have a weak link, really, and as long as they don't get cocky they can down all your towers really effectively without much risk. [/quote]Aye, they don't have a weak li

Ok, here's a way to get random. Get a coin. Then flip it. If it's head, you're light side, tails dark side. Then flip it again. Heads for generals and tails for assassins. Then flip it again. Heads = top DG (that fits other criteria) and tails = bottom DG (that fits other criteria). There, random DG!

[quote who="Freche" reply="22" id="2161058"]Sorry but I don't belive it's 1.8gold/goldmine, I just started a Zikurat map starting with 4 goldmines then I took the mine in the middle so I had 5 mines, if it was 1.8 gold/mine then I should get 9 gold each tick but I got 10 gold. And if we would get 1.8 gold / mine then I would have got a lot less gold in my first tests, I would have got ~36gold/10sec instead of the 44gold/10sec. [/quote]Oh sorry, I mean't each tick i

[quote who="Abe07" reply="5" id="2160862"]I have a question...does armor mitigate damage you recieve from towers?[/quote]Yes. Also, I did some math. Against normal attacks, UB gains 218ehp (ehp = hp with armour factored in) from the +600 armour item, and 464ehp for the +400hp armour item. Clearly the +400hp item is far better.

Doggiedoddle, you just confirmed by findings about the gold rate. Thanks. :] Basically, each gold mine mines once every 1.8 seconds. At the start it's 4 gold per tick, then 8, 10, 12 for each Mint upgrade respectively. Also, you guys aren't factoring in the number of gold mines you have. On Cataract you start with 3. You can get 4 on Crucible and start with 2. So it varies map to map. So, some math. On Cataract, you can get the first upgrade in 5 mi

What are you doing to do when the enemy DGs come and chase the Oaks away? Rook ends up by his lonesome, a good UB will make sure Rook doesn't escape (several towers + creeps + UB = dead rook). From what I've seen the Citidal has hax health regen (something like 100hp/ps) so that means if Rook dies, you're out 30 seconds. Then it takes 30 seconds to get back if no one intercepts you. That's 60 seconsd of 100hp/ps regen. Or 6000hp. I just see a team of 4 Oaks and a Rook getting co

Anklets (with Boots of Speed), so I'm 99% of the time the fastest DG in the game, letting me avoid Inner Beast and Diseased Claws till late game (level 15+). 90% of my damage comes from abilities, so Furious Blade is useless to me.

[quote who="trankillity" reply="23" id="2159455"]Yeah. The Heart is an item I strive for in every game with any Assassin I play as (Generals less so). It really does need a bit of a nerf. I reckon 1 minute cooldown (up from 30 sec) and the requirement to stand still will make it more balanced. Leave the gold cost as-is though. It's just currently too powerful if you can simply kite someone away while regenning to full health/mana, especially as the TB.[/quote]It's fine. Really. I

Well, the current build I've been going is... Spit Ooze Nothing Spit and Ooze Grasp Nothing Spit and Ooze Post Mortem Nothing Spit And Ooze By level 10... Well ANY DG with less then 3k hp is pretty much dead if you get in grasp range with them. As for Ooze... I just think of it as 140dps that ignores armour. Doesn't matter how m

If you go Spit + Ooze + Grasp you'll completely destroy Sedna 1v1. Her heal can't keep up with Spit + Ooze, not to mention that lvl4 Ooze cripples her normal attack (as well as minion's normal attacks). So, spit, run in with ooze on and melee. If she tries to tele or run, use grasp.

[quote who="ZehDon" reply="16" id="2159436"] Quoting woca, reply 12wrong. its not faster. it just shoots all from same place. so that tower looks fast so if 8 towers next to eachother. they shoot 1 time per second ... then one of those towers will shoot 8 in the second Ah, sorry mate - thanks for the correction. Using this, we could actually create long links using Rook's Towers and essentially "move" the Tower's combined DPS away from it's original point whil

I've been trying out a build that I find really effective you can try out. It's main goal is holding an area and taking out towers quickly. It's completely useless for killing enemy DGs (tho they'll die if they get cocky against you). Basically grab Blood of The Fallen favor item (required or you won't have enough hp). You need a TON of mana, so you get all 4 helms, in this order. 4,2,3,1. The last one doesn't give much and you can skip it if you want (+8). Also grab some +armou

Well, that's the thing. People rarely leave/drop when I join other games (talking custom here). So, I'm either really unlucky, or something weird is going on.

Ok, I just checked using Fraps. Towers have a 2 second fire rate, and towers linking is purely visual. It has absolutely no effect on fire rate.

Heh. I just played a game (sadly 3v2) with Rook. Well, I'm pretty sure the enemy was rather surprised as I took down 4 of their towers and stole one of their spawns (map was Prison). I was only level 8. :]

Ok, got a strange problem when I host. It's happened 7 out of 8 times, so chance is ruled out. Basically, whenever I host, someone leaves as the game is loading. I have absolutely no idea why.

Ok, so spit does more damage then fireball. You're forgetting UB only has 2 nukes, both of which are DoT. TB has 4 nukes, 3 of which are near instant. He also has several AoE buffs/debuffs, as well an as AoE stun that is crazy against creeps AND a ranged interrupt that casts near instant. UB is pretty much the best DG in the game at dealing damage, while TB is more of a support/utility role. I don't see a problem here.