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[quote who="BluDragoon" reply="14" id="2205915"] The short version here is that basing your statistical arguments on data that appears to be flawed to such a degree is a very unsound practice.[/quote] You make a good point, that some or all of the pantheon statistics may be flawed, especially those you specificly referenced. However, the complete argument here is not just "use the pantheon statistics to make balance changes". It is just "use statistics (or other objective evid

Xinoxlx: [quote]For mana issue it only exists till about level 3-4 depending on match as the priority for both is to get rid of mana problems, so they're both going to want to get Vlemish and Plenor. (Or just Vlemish)[/quote] If they both had the same items Erebus would (obviously) still have a smaller mana pool. [quote]Stopped the comparison after the mana one, hence the lack of - at the start of each point. It was

[quote who="UhelligGudn" reply="9" id="2204206"]...in fact I dont even see why people post "US WEST COAST" and such [/quote] because we be representin' WEST SIDE!!

[quote who="Xinoxlx" reply="13" id="2204008"] As for the comparison bite still wins for a few reason. - In the time it takes you to cast fireball the other demi can walk up to you and be in melee range by the end of the cast so the range isn't always applicable. Unlike DoTA ranged hero's don't stay at range for very long, as it's very easy to close the distance. [/quote] The instant cast of bite is beneficial,

This reminds me... there is no "Read before posting!" pinned/locked thread in these forums [that i have seen]. This post should be it.

[quote who="Jaradakar" reply="4" id="2203753"] Picking up at least 1 level bite at the start of the game is due to it being Erebus's only offensive attack. This is just how he is currently designed. This nerf will not change that in any way shape or form -- bite will still be my first power every game. Mist is a great avoidance tactic but does little damage and is more for pushing/hiding. Charm is a great way to stop abilities (hammer, potion use etc). I

[quote who="JagerJack" reply="3" id="2202385"]I meant that when you are stuck with an AI from the beginning of the game it isn't uncommon for the enemy AI to be Erebus, in my experience at least. And yes, I'm aware that the AI was recently taken out of Pantheon, but I stress the term recently. The AI haven't been out long enough to make a significant change in the stats.[/quote] Personal experiences represent too small of a sample to support a claim that one Demigod is pl

[quote who="JagerJack" reply="1" id="2202339"]I think the reason he is in the middle is because the AI likes playing as him.[/quote] Explain this further. Because the OP was referencing Pantheon statistics, in which the AI would only take over for player's whom left the game early. Said statistics can be found here . As the OP said, there is no objective data