MABManZ

I'm a wandering hobo mercenary if anyone needs one. I promise to not use Bestial Wrath unless i'm playing with RapierX

[quote who="Shadow" reply="20" id="2294757"] pRoneG And i will beat that Shadow and his mates quit when they start to lose PP Not once. Also, l2spell. MABManZ funny that one game you dropped Shadow, I think was the game w/ my team bringing the heat on you, and you didn't have Rapier with you. We had the edge and you dropped, unfortunately. You mean the game crash that ended my win streak at 91? Oh yeah, that was so intentional. After all, why try and fight

Would have never been possible without my Bestial Wrath funny that one game you dropped Shadow, I think was the game w/ my team bringing the heat on you, and you didn't have Rapier with you. We had the edge and you dropped, unfortunately.

Now for more items/balance fixes. Better gloves and boots please!

The real solution here is adding voice chat in-game. Now EVERYONE is a premade! Unless they don't have a mic, of course.

This build is awesome! I made a few changes: Got Teleport Amulet for favor item instead, after you have Vlemish and Plenor helms, mana is pretty substantial. Add in Magus Rod mid/late game and you pretty much have infinite mana. Later both helms can be sold for Hungarling's Crown if the game drags out, and open up another slot for armor or other items (Journeyman Treads is probably best). Tele Amulet allows you to be everywhere at once, setting up

[quote who="_Shadow" reply="22" id="2288385"] Quoting MABManZ, reply 21 Quoting _Shadow, reply 19 Quoting Milskidasith, reply 18It's weak early game, obviously, but the basic thing is that you can easily keep destroying towers and buildings unless the enemy has strong AoE attacks, and since Erebus can always get away, there is really nothing you can do about it. There's plenty you can do about it and if you take all of those other skills (batswarm and mist) along with the

[quote who="_Shadow" reply="19" id="2288316"] Quoting Milskidasith, reply 18It's weak early game, obviously, but the basic thing is that you can easily keep destroying towers and buildings unless the enemy has strong AoE attacks, and since Erebus can always get away, there is really nothing you can do about it. There's plenty you can do about it and if you take all of those other skills (batswarm and mist) along with the gear to use them, your minions won't be nearly as strong. And

Warpstone needs 0 cast time and about half the price. Otherwise anyone who wants this ability will just choose Cloak of Night.

Yeah Wand and Boots is neccessary here IMO, both for suriviability and killing potential. I recommend skipping on the Wyrmskins though, as no one is silly enough to fight a rook in melee combat for very long. Most of your damage is from boulder/roll and shoulder weapons. I'd say replace Wyrmskins with Hauberk of Life or a second helm.

Make more items useful. 90% of builds use the exact same items (Nimoth, Vlemish, Unbreakable Boots) simply because nothing else is valuable enough.

[quote who="Zechnophobe" reply="6" id="2283082"]I bet it really hurts when you lose the game at level 14 though . My general build doesn't bother with God strength until level 11 and 12. Mainly because I don't ever assume I'm in melee range with someone. That said, it is hard to ignore +50 damage.[/quote] God Strength also "sends smaller units flying", let's you farm a lot faster or control creeps waves.

I agree, it's a perfect item for character with cooldown of 10 secs or more like Regulus mines or Ice Torch! Vlemish + Magus Rod is pretty much infinite mana, in fact many times I will just stick with a Scaled Helm and w/ Magus rod your mana stays up for LONG time.

Theurgist Cap and Gauntlets of despair, but they are not effective at all. Cap needs like 30% chance to proc and needs to be cheaper. Gauntlets of despiar needs to be either higher % to activate or more mana per shot.

Actually it's usefull when ur team is losing like crazy and u just want to mist with erebus forever to avoid dying.

If you are spitting or hybrid ooze/spit definitely use Blade of Serpent favor. Mana issues solved completely, spit pays for itself even at lvl 1 I think. Narmoth's Ring will easily keep your HP up. Of course you could always grab Wings of Seraphim if you were more worried about the health than mana.

[quote who="Teseer" reply="16" id="2276265"]There's not much you can do. I've done a minion build Oak that just feels...unfair. I think minions need a complete rework. Either: A: Minions have a very SLIGHT impact on the game if you dont spec into them B: Minions are downright cheap if you spec into them. I can't think of a good middle ground though. [/quote] The answer is less morale points available, maybe make the morale line

Spit helps but you cannot spit and run, you have to engage. Hybrid Ooze + Spit works wonders

[quote who="Teseer" reply="5" id="2277227"]I do love WotS. Yelling over Xfire "Get close to me!" (For the record, it's not an aura. It just applies the buff to whos in range, they can move away after the effect starts and do not gain it if they are not near you when it is activated.)[/quote] I believe Cape of Plentiful Mana works this way too

Probably all using Horn of Battle too, that's brutal I really have no clue what you could do in that situation. Probably try to buy priests, angels and upgrade tower regen as you noted. Get them to use their horn before they reach citadel. The problem was probably that u were defending the citadel rather than meeting the minions before they got that far.

This is the exact build I use for Ice Torch, but I've always used Poison Dagger. I may try swift anklet some time instead. Orb of Flames is a much better buy than Orb of Veiled Storms, for only 2000 more gold u get + 30% attack speed and a ton of extra mana along with a circle of fire effect for 800 damage over time, much more useful than +25% attack, 25 HPSand a 500 damage burst I think..

Ever play Team Fortress 2?

With a serpent blade there are no needs for a mana helmet on the hybrid build. Thus you can completely stack HP items like the pure ooze build. You can even skip unbreakable boots and maybe get bloodstone ring. If you spit once and activate blade the spit will pay for itself in mana/damage even at lvl 2. Mid/late game you can buy the Magus Rod which makes spit/grasp combo very cheap, and the 5 second window is easy for even spit/grasp/wrath combo. Combined with Serpent Blade it's pretty much

Bestial Wrath is fine and doesn't need to be replaced. It's great for late game extra damage

[quote who="woca" reply="4" id="2270364"] mines - use shield, or aviod, or use penitence and interupt beast - why are you getting spirits? ooze really isnt bad at all, you are right about health though, it can be a big problem. that's why getting a head is key. later lvl rooks can be a pain, the best way to deal with them is ton get killed, not let them kill you, or plan to take em out when you have 2v1 erubus - at a high lvl is a pain because of nightwalkers