Isn't this kinda Beta 3B? Or are you making suggestions in a different way?

Pointless feedback if you don't elaborate why you suggested each change. You have to talk about the reason for the change and how the change will better the game.

i agree with all of them, minions need their attack significantly increased and health significantly reduced.

Also erebus needs a buff dmg is a bit slow for close range and his mist isnt so good so i would like the mana reduce, since u no more can heal in mist

Ub has huge dps and huge passive armor/health, i think dps should be lower by a very small percent and health/ armor reduced a bit too since he can have good amount of health without items, if we add items it can easily reach 6k hp

ice tb deep freeze needs to be a bit weaker and dont restart cooldown of skills that are ready.

Something must be done with tele/stun u can easily warp and stun and the other player can just w8 to die doing nothing, Maybe after teleporting not be able to use skills for 2sec? what do u think?

i wish they see those and change them at beta 2c game will be more balanced imo.

[quote who="[AC]DalzK" reply="4" id="2088758"]Phazon I have made seperate threads for each of those points I have put down.



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could you put links next to the suggestions then? it would help a lot of us out.

Yea goodgimp they are pretty poor at the moment - though QoT's mulch is pretty good and can damage enemies for some good damage. However, I think if they're hp is lowered + attack highered a good amount they good be pretty dangerous guys to mess around with.

Great change log couldn't agree more, other changes needed to be done but its a good start.

I  have another idea that may help a lot at game, since max stats arent liked by many ppl i have though something else,

To be able to put only 1 items type, i mean change it so u cant have 2 armor or 2 boot items in same time. that will help a lot with hugehealth demigods and also will need to be more caruful to where u use spells since u cant have 2 helmets and just spam anytime u want a spell. maybe change slots for item to be like this

1 for helm

1 for boots

1 for armor

1 for gloves

1 for weapons

2 for rings and other items that arent in other categories

dont change consumable item slots

what do u think about that?

Totally agree because demigod shouldn't be able to just get a hell of alot of health making it basicly impossible to kill. But I think their should be 1 slot for artifacts because not all are helms and boots and other normal items.

about some builds that take a lot of mana i believe it will make them a bit more difficult since u must thing when to use them not like now that u can just spam them mindlesly if u have 2 helms.Some builds will be viable but it wont be so easy since u cant just be able to use spells all time without any mana problem, some spells imo shouldnt be always active like angel fury, u must use it at the right time not all in all game,

Also this will stop in a degree huge health demigods, i played a game as tb vs angel regulus, and i won because i used 2 helmets and the just bought only armor and had 6k hp and almost 50% armor

Now for some weaknesses of demigods can be shadowed by items, and then have almost no weaknesses.

buying best item it will not be so easy expect if enemy demigods die all the time

the only other option is max stats but i dont know if it easy to be implented, This will be the easy solution but not 100% good. Max stats is  the 100% imo

Enforcing maximum stats feels like a cop-out to me.  It's like "Hey, we made this guy too powerful so let's prevent him from gaining more power after level 15".  If that Rook can't get more HP, then he'll get more damage/speed/regen or whatever.  Granted, capping stats is the only way to make sure people are playing with exactly the stats you've balanced the game with, since any other values will be that much more difficult to obtain.

I'm more in favor of some sort of diminishing returns from stacking items.  In armor's case, the formula for damage reduction can be tweaked.  Limiting the number of items of the same kind that can be equipped also makes sense.

But that's the beauty of it.  I can play Regulus as a tank if I really want to, but I'll never be able to tank like Rook can with the same items.  You can play to your strengths or be insane and surprising, and that isn't something that needs nerfing or capping - it's what will give this game depth, imo. 

yeah but when it gets to the point that Rook has 9k health because he got all health items is the point were I start to get annoyed.

I also really HATE every time someone says you shoudl be capped to 1 item of each type.  Stop suggesting it.

Care to expand on this?