If the opponent is able to get artifacts you shouldn't be able to comeback tbh.

Both sides should be able to get artifacts no problem. But you're right, if they can stack many of them it is pretty much game over. Thats my point. Theres NO chance of comeback and RUINS the game for the losing team.
I love this game, but the frustration factor absolutly kills the game for a lot of people (my friends included) and if it helps make that better, I feel the game would benefit.

NAT Facilitator is OP. Please nerf his "disconnect" ability! 

The game is meant to be lost by one team. If it gets to the point where one team is stacking artifacts, there shouldn't be a comeback, and it's time for the game to end.

....As far as I know, most games are meant to be lost by one team.

There shouldnt be a point where a comback is impossible. That was one of my main problems with SupCom (But Supcom is still my favorite game). But SupCom still has a much bigger chance of an upset win then DG. Very few games of DG have been even close to even. Every game I played my team has rolled over the other team after about the lvl 10 mark.

So you would much rather have the entire opposing team drop out at about lvl 12 when momentum becomes obvious? Or how about when you barely get to mid game and are slightly losing to have one of your teammates quit and get replaced with a dumb as fuk computer AI?

I think there is too much gold awarded for player kills which means the first few kills gives far too much momentum and the game is decided too early. Items are worth far more than levels and abilities. Gold is the primary defining aspect of winning or losing.

Which leads me to my last point: Why even bother sticking around for a 30 minute game when you know the game has been decided within the first 10 minutes? The game hardly gives any incentive to stick out a losing game with only 10 favor points awarded for sticking around to get ass raped.

QFFT

That is the only thing that I believe is...."OP"....I've read enough of these (sad as that is) to safely say that EVERYTHING IS OP! Seriously consider your own gameplay before saying something is overpowered. Maybe Sedna's pounce shouldn't hit so hard, but pounce doesn't make or break a game. That can apply to almost everything. The artifacts are there to give an edge, that's why they are there. Games need to end sometime and people win or lose. Have a nice day, or night whatever

Not drop out, but when the momentum becomes obvious that's exactly when you need quick game enders so that you don't keep the losing team grinding their teeth.

Let's face it, by the time one team has permanent control over the artifact shop and enough gold to afford them, the momentum is obvious and the game needs to end quickly at that point so that the losing team doesn't get pounded for another 20 minutes.

This has nothing to do with anything. People will make their own choices when to quit, and this is something you can never control. Some people quit because they die once, doesn't mean there's anything wrong with the game. The best you can do is when it becomes pretty obvious that one team is going to lose, you make that loss come as quickly as possible so the people on the losing team don't have as much reason to drop out.

Hmm..

And a lot of people are apparently playing a different game from me where it takes 20 minutes to kill ONCE you have momemtum.  Most of my games last 14-28 minutes.  I've only had like 4 games that took almost 50.

One thing I've noticed is that if both teams get gints at about the same time, it can seriously stalemate.

But that's rolling over an eh... team. From what I've seen, the death is slow and painful with teams of about even skill once the game gets to the point of no return.

Against teams with a feeder (which sucks to be on that team, more reason I feel the reward is too much) the games end rather quick.

Na.  Maybe when 2 evenly bad teams. W ith 2 good teamates mistakes and weaknesses will get better exploited.

Weee..

http://i40.tinypic.com/6e2g6x.jpg

I name the room "good players only" or "pros only".. and get all these people from dota thinking they're pro's at DG and they get rolled.

Sedna's early tower pushing ability is so insane.

Well if they got rolled, then it wasnt even teams...

>_>

keke

Isn't it ridiculous the amount of favor points you get for damage done?  You would think with 5 more kills and 1 more assist that you would have dominated the favor points category.  I know they don't really matter to some people who only see the anklet, but it still makes me wonder exactly how it scores favor points for people trying to earn them.  It certainly doesn't promote team play that's for sure.  If as Sedna/QoT you only went support and didn't attack, you would get the default amount of points even if it was your support that won the game for your team.

Well, off topic: I think obviously that Favor should be reset and constant for Pantheon, but either:

A: Always all unlocked
B: Never resetting

For custom

Oh, and another off topic, Wasnt there supposed to be some way to use Favor to take Favor away from other people on the ladder?

Um...  I would say in a Straight up starting from lvl 1 game its hard to see what Demigods are Imbal.  However,  once all the Demigods hit lvl 20 Unclean Beast can pretty much three shot The Rook no matter how much gear you put on him.

But so much depends on how you play them, of course someone is going to win and someone is going to lose, but you can't honestly say that the UB will win every time against the Rook. I'm not trying to be a jerk, sorry if I sound like one but you cannot honestly say that UB wins every time.

edit: I usually try not to sound stupid too, but that happens no matter how hard I try teehee

Even spit is silly. You only need 7k hp and you'll survive 4 spits. Get Bulwarks and you'll survive 5. Add in Structural Transfer and he'll survive 7+. Add in his hps, and well. >.>

Well you can get 4k dmg crits rather easy with ashkandor. :/

You mean askander + other stuff. It took bestial wrath plus a whole bunch of other artifacts to hit that number vs a QoT.

I am wary to call things OP especially at this early stage but no matter what demigod I play I always have big problems against the UB, so much so that me and my friends now call it the 'Unclean Formula 1 Car' even with a good sized headstart there is nothing you can do to get away from it and it's venom spit is incredibly powerful considering its range (though not nearly as bad as its speed).

Hm.. i've gotten 4k+ crits without bestial wrath and at around 30 minutes.

seriously, 4k?

that would be a base weapon damage of 1000 vs. a target with zero armor. 

just no way a crit like that is gonna happen without help from some abilities. a Ground Spikes to reduce armor could do it. a Penitence to increase their damage taken could do it. a Bestial Wrath could do it. 

alternatively you might get some kind of lucky double crit if Ashkandor and Slayer's Wraps procced at the same time. i'm not even sure that can happen, but presumably would result in a 6x crit if it did.