[quote who="Zechnophobe" reply="11" id="2203657"]Best moment evar: Zechnophobe has Killed Zechnophobe (1600 gold). I actually killed myself on my own potion a moment before getting killed by an enemy... and I Got GOLDZ for it.[/quote] This. (...needs to be fixed.)
A great guide for such dillemas: http://www.gamereplays.org/community/index.php?showtopic=480709
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Wow. You must be proud.
[quote who="TheGuildfordStrangler" reply="25" id="2202972"]It's only good as a dodge move. I like to wait for people who use it as a stall tactic, just outside the cloud, and then kill them when they have no mana. Show them how a real vampire plays.[/quote] Impressive.
[quote who="Lugh" reply="18" id="2202995"]I disagree with only being spit and run. Combining spit and run with the Oooooze goodness can have you easily top the charts in damage especially if you add in the plague too..[/quote] Of course you disagree. In a game that might last for a while, this build would be laughing stock. Epic fail for trying to make "teh ultimate build". Since there is no such thing as "the only correct way to play a DG"
I'm sorry mate, it might just as well be a good guide, but when I see this: Other Stuff: Item xx: Mage Slayer 7680 (Sell Gauntlets of Brutality) Item xx: Cloak of ElfinKind 12000 Item xx: Ashkandor 17680 (Sell Scale Mail) I am done with reading.
[quote who="innociv" reply="7" id="2195679"]Erm well I think you're doing it wrong then. [/quote] Let's not make this a tactical discussion regarding items, but as long as some people use them - they are not redundant. I use them as well, although only with Erebus. But I find them very useful, because I pick him for certain matches where I need to hold my lane for a long time, without going to the base (and I really mean long time); they are just perfect for that situation, be
@ Miyamiya All right, you have a point, but it seems we play on different planets. [i]A good player will make sure to be around to take advantage of that. The second problem is the lost time from doing this repeatedly vs a demigod who is farming creeps instead.[/i] I don't see how an
[quote who="Miyamiya" reply="3" id="2191935"]So really theres no point in pushing early game, and it seems whoever is wasting all this time on towers beforehand might not be in the best shape to take down a player who instead was focusing on levels.[/quote] What are you on about? I have won every single game where we managed to push towers early on. It's an amazing advantage, one of the most important you can actually get until artefacts. Are you aware that early tower
This is close to how my team is playing. Excellent guide, thumbs up. Now, just one thing - I really am not sure against what kind of opposition you play, but ending a game on Cataract around level 10 just isn't possible in games against good players. It doesn't mean this guide is not useful - it's an amazingly good guide for general plal as well - but you shouldn't emphasize so much on early ending, as it really is not an option against good and/or organized opponents.
[quote who="Arsonide" reply="4" id="2188666"] 1. I typically end the game when I'm level 20 and everybody else is 15...with Ashkandur and Mageslayer. 2. Every time I try throwing a hybrid build together it fails miserably. 3. ...and that's mainly been me and two friends against four hard AIs. I can take on two or three at a time and send them all running or kill them. But again, in my personal experience - Fire > Fire + Ice > Ice.[/quote] Oh, w
They still explode. (Not all of them though; just pay attention and you'll notice.)
Nvm then.
As an UB player, I can tell you that mana is rarely a problem when favors are allowed. (Although I prefer games with no favor items allowed, and that's how I've been playing for days now.) With Blade of Serpent, you can either spit, then activate it and combined with other melee damage, have more mana than before spit (unless you had full mana, of course); not to mention Post Mortem AND plague - it's endless mana pool for UB. Without favor items, I still find myself way too often on t
[quote quoting="post"]With less skilled players, I usually kill them fast enough to afford All Father's Ring before the end of the game.[/quote] With less skilled players, game should be over long before any of you can actually afford AFR, along with other items.
Edit: Never mind, didn't read other replies. Delete, please.
[quote who="innociv" reply="13" id="2175313"] Quoting Retroromanic, reply 12 Agreed with Rain of Ice comment - most of the AoE DG skills are avoidable, if you recognize the animation and know what to do. I succeed in evading Rain of Ice in 9 out of 10 situations. It's not about skill. Maybe reduce damage by 1/3 and I'd take it. Hm? I was actually saying the opposite.. By the time I see the maelstrom falling, I can never move out of the way even wh
All of this makes prefect sense. +1
Great collection of witty ideas. What's really important for me at the moment is - do developers actually read this? Do they post on these forums? Anyway - as an UB professional (:wink:), I agree for spit immunity for buildings, as well as 1/4 damage for Regulus. Word. As an Erebus master (:wink:), I wholeheartedly agree on Bite nerf, while I am not sure of not being able to use skills for couple of seconds after Mist. Just my feeling, I can't support it wit
[quote who="Fractallicon"]Once I get HoL, it's all over.[/quote] No, it's not. Who are you playing against, clueless bots? [quote who="Fractallicon"]Torchbearer: A) Decent "sudden" damage at range with maxed out fireball, but it's slow to fire and does less damage than Spit when Spit is maxxed. Can't match UB's speed even with the same items due to Inner Beast.[/quote] Uh, now seriously, did you ever play against a good TB? <p
Good tips for new players. Although I am yet to see someone actually typing "Their TB is hurt badly, now would be a good time to kill him" instead of "end tb low jhp" or "rape tb".
[quote who="innociv" reply="5" id="2171821"]Because people hate losing control of their character. It takes out all the skill of play. That's like a stun but way-freaking-worse.[/quote] Word. I've read couple of ideas that were contemplating the idea of "taking over control"; I'd say - forget it. Too powerful; way too disturbing.
Well, I've just played a game which is perfect to reflect these thoughts of mine. Cataract - Regulus, Oak and Unclean Beast (me) versus Rook, Erebus and Unclean Beast. Thanks to an excellent Rook player, they managed to lock us early game (before they even hit level 4-5) and destroyed middle towers + archer towers. It looked like a game over. We were pushing really hard and we managed to hold them somehow, but it was impossible to hold a single flag for longer than a m
Hey all, I don't like opening a new topic just for this small idea, but there wasn't a single related topic I could hi-jack to propose this, so pardon me, please. I think we should allow leveling above 20. Now let me explain. I am well aware most games are almost done when some players hit level 20, although not necessarily. But, we have favor item that increases XP; we have XP