Quoting Ouchy Dathurts, reply 14
You can't rely on your team to do it. You can never rely on your team. You play to win by yourself, if the team helps that's a bonus but you can't rely on the guy next to you to do something. It's a "if you want things done right, do it yourself" genre.
Hmm... I'm going to have to go ahead and... Disagree, with you there...
See we here are Demigod like to think we're part of a "team"... Yeah... See we're Leveraging synergies now... Did you get the memo?
So if you could just, "try" and remember that... That'd be great... And ahh, I'll be sure you get another copy of that memo...
You only play rook, that's not exactly trying everything. These games are all about countering. You don't play what you like, you play to counter the other team. When they pick a hero you pick a hero that counters them, when they pick a skill you pick a skill to counter it. That's how you win these games. If that doesn't sound like fun this might not be the genre for you.
You can't rely on your team to do it. You can never rely on your team. You play to win by yourself, if the team helps that's a bonus but you can't rely on the guy next to you to do something. It's a "if you want things done right, do it yourself" genre.
Absurdedly wrong. Teamwork is paramount in this game, just as it is in DoTA. Not only is teamwork important, but having team members who are individually skilled is also critical. You remind me of those guys who'd take credit for winning a match when you were getting tons of backup from a sedna or qot.
You can NOT rely on your team in this or DotA unless you're bringing people you know. In a public game you absolutely can not rely on them, if you think you can you're smoking crack. Yes, you might get a good team mate, or your team mate might suck shit. But you can't just assume they're good or know what they're doing. More often than not 1 or more will have no idea what the hell is happening. You rely on yourself and only yourself and if it happens that you get lucky then you'll be all that more powerful. If not you havent fucked yourself by relying on someone thats no good.
The people that play these games and rely on team mates are the same people we're seeing here crying about heroes. ZOMG Sniper/troll warlord/PA/etc are OP!!! Except none of them are if you had gotten an item to stop them you'd be fine. But you chose to get whatever items that are 1337sauce instead and now you get to eat shit. You can't assume someone else is going to get a sheep stick to disable them, you have to do it yourself. If you don't you have no one to blame but yourself.
Quoting InfiniteVengeance,
Think of it this way. Did anyone who played Erebus ever NOT get bite? No? Then clearly the ability is not balanced. Two solutions - nerf it, or buff all the other abilities until they are just as useful.
Since cross balance demigod play would probably get screwed up by buffing everything else, bite got nerfed. Will you choose it every time now? If not, then the purpose is solved. Whether Erebus is now overall too weak compared to other demigods we will see, but this goes a long way towards internally balancing him.
And that's a good thing in the end.
Does anyone play sedna without the heal? No because you'd be a retard not to get an ability that can heal you in big chunks. Does that make her heal OP? Nope, just means its something that can turn a battle by giving you more staying power. Bite can be stopped by a number of things, but again, people don't care to counter it, they'd rather bitch like children.
Quoting Ouchy Dathurts, reply 12No hero is OP, no skill is OP. There are ways to work around every single hero and skill. But its easier to cry about things than try.
Ah, you're using a nomenclature where OP means "100% unbeatable". No one else uses the word to mean such a thing, but I see that you're a special snowflake. I'm sure that you believe, just as no ability is significantly stronger than others, that no ability is worse than others, right? I mean, since there is this magical perfect balance that the game has achieved. I'm sure you consistently win games as a Sedna Yeti-build, right?
Edit: InfiniteVengeance says it nicer, but yeah. Agreeing with him.
In a game like this (you cant have every ability) many skills will go unpicked. Not because they're necesarrily weak but because they don't fit into what you're trying to accomplish. In most games snipe is not needed, does that make it a useless skill? No, it means its situational and the generally the situation doesn't call for it.
How can we possible beat erebus? Silence doesnt work, stun doesn't work, mark of the betrayer doesn't work, landmines don't work, circle of flames doesn't work. He's unstoppable. I haven't played erebus in quite a while because he's nothing special at all. The people I've played against lately that use him end up just feeding and crying in the end. He's not an issue, bite's not an issue but if you want to nerf him and make him a bigger punching bag I'll keep feeding off of him. What's next for the whaambulance anyways?
