Kokujin

Join Date 05/2009

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Guide/Test – Are you a Noob?

I’m not ranked-1 or a supreme player, but I do just fine in this game and I don’t want to get a noob on my team that will lead to a lost game. I know I can premade a group and start a game, I usually do, but its not always that this can be a possibility and I want to play and have some fun, and losing aint fun when it can be avoided. Ps: English isn’t my primary language, sorry for any inconvenience this might generate to you.

So here it goes:

If you think locking flags is a waste of money: you’re a big noob.
If you don’t lock your portal flag when things get bad: you’re a big noob.
If you don’t care for war rank: big noob
If you don’t pick a DG that plays well with the other DGs in your group or a DG that has a clear disadvantage with the opponents DGs: Noob
If you don’t know how to use teleport scrolls to kill an opponent or escape: Noob
If you die twice under 3mins of a game: Noob
If you can’t realize that your team mates that play Sedna/QoT/Oak has CDs and can’t save you all the time: Noob
If you don’t know the most important flags in the maps you usually play: Noob
If you don’t know when to hold a lane and when to go back and shop (or save yourself going to the crystal): Noob
If you don’t communicate with your team: Noob
If you have 8k gold and your team just hits War Rank 10 and you buy mageslayer without even asking if some1else can buy giants or if its important grunts at the particular time: Noob
If you don’t know how important citadel upgrades are, and when to buy each upgrade: Noob
If you don’t know the primary target in a X Vs X encounter (with X dif than 1): Noob
If you think that any DG is OP (except, maybe, in 1x1 games) : Noob
If you don’t know (after you engage) that you are going to die (1x1 encounter) and dies after all (running away to late): Noob
And lastly, if you go fight in the middle of the opponents tower without knowing what you are doing and dies miserably: ----

Why I wrote this? Well, if you are a noob in any of those statements don’t bother entering a game with the description “No Noobs” or “Pro”, your team will probably lose and your team will be very unhappy with you, don’t waste your time or anybody else time. Do as every1else, learn to play with noobs, and once you improve try the pro games. Or set a premade yourself and face pros to learn their tactics, don’t ruin some random pro-guy game-play trying to learn the game.

With this, by no means, I want to be disrespectful to any1. I’m always polite in game, every time some1 asks me something about my build or items or whatever in game, I answer. I’m never rude to any1 in game, always trying to help. And this post is another try in helping ppl out once more.

Gl all and hf.

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Same for you Kokujin, it seems our two posts are complementary after all

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Damn I'm a double noob.

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Quoting IllegalDustbin,

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Damn I'm a double noob.

Yeah noob here too. Good post though

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I used to hate flag lock...

but im not a noob anymore

We can add a wise word that I heard in another game:

-If you die, you're wrong

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Some of the things make a lot of sense, but also some of these things are highly advanced stuff. Knowing exactly when to get what in the citadel comes to mind... It takes quite a big chuink of experience to know those things. In a month from now, your views on your current strategies may have changed quite a lot so even you may consider the things that you do now quite nooby in a month.

Another one is not strict enough like the dying twice in under 3 mins in. I think dying even once 3 mins in is horrible and noobish...

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If you get worked up over a computer game and see it as your right to look down on others when granted the opportunity...noob

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if 1 uses 1 instead of one: noob

that being said , i agree tho, don't joing "pro" games if you haven't played that long. but the same is true the otherway around, don't join "noob" games if you're good/pro

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I am a beta tester and per him a total noob

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If you don’t know the primary target in a X Vs X encounter (with X dif than 1): ????

This one isn't as trivial as it seems?

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Sorry, double post.

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Quoting Shurdus,

reply 5

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Quoting ntropy,

reply 9

If you don’t know the primary target in a X Vs X encounter (with X dif than 1): ????

This one isn't as trivial as it seems?

Yeah, that one is very situational, maybe shouldn't be there, maybe. Lots of good players may go wrong on this one and not be a noob, just not a very good/experienced player.

And yes, it isn't trivial.

True, strategies change, but for now I belive most of my list is correct, so for now thats how I can help (twisted way of helping I know).

About the dying part, well, you are correct. I just added a death for enphasis.

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Actually, I am not sure what

Quoting Kokujin,

reply 11

Quoting Shurdus, reply 5Some of the things make a lot of sense, but also some of these things are highly advanced stuff. Knowing exactly when to get what in the citadel comes to mind... It takes quite a big chuink of experience to know those things. In a month from now, your views on your current strategies may have changed quite a lot so even you may consider the things that you do now quite nooby in a month.

Another one is not strict enough like the dying twice in under 3 mins in. I think dying even once 3 mins in is horrible and noobish...

True, strategies change, but for now I belive most of my list is correct, so for now thats how I can help (twisted way of helping I know).
About the dying part, well, you are correct. I just added a death for enphasis.

Quoting ntropy, reply 9If you don’t know the primary target in a X Vs X encounter (with X dif than 1): ????

This one isn't as trivial as it seems?

Yeah, that one is very situational, maybe shouldn't be there, maybe. Lots of good players may go wrong on this one and not be a noob, just not a very good/experienced player.

And yes, it isn't trivial.[/quote]

I'm not even sure what it means, much less whether it's trivial or not.

Actually, I do have problems sometimes coordinating attacks with my partners in 2v2 or 3v3 battles. I always target, basically, whichever enemy DG is "in front" so to speak, unless one is very heavily weakened and likely to die.

When partner DGs target other enemy DGs than the one I'm targetting, I'm never sure whether it's because I'm doing something wrong or whether it's because they are.

There are also situational factors like whether one of the enemy DGs is significantly under-leveled or has shown a tendency to feed or something.

Is that what we're talking about?

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Quoting Speusippus,

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I'm not even sure what it means, much less whether it's trivial or not.

Actually, I do have problems sometimes coordinating attacks with my partners in 2v2 or 3v3 battles. I always target, basically, whichever enemy DG is "in front" so to speak, unless one is very heavily weakened and likely to die.

When partner DGs target other enemy DGs than the one I'm targetting, I'm never sure whether it's because I'm doing something wrong or whether it's because they are.

There are also situational factors like whether one of the enemy DGs is significantly under-leveled or has shown a tendency to feed or something.

Is that what we're talking about?

Yes it is. And since you realize someone (no more 1's ) is wrong, shows that its a valid point. I'm not saying its you, just that it happens, and someone is wrong, therefore: not "pro", but maybe, not a noob either.

And since this is very situational, I stated earlier that this might be to much and the sentence, maybe, shouldn't be part of the list.

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I guess one of the best things that made a premade team be any good is that all players in the team HAVE to trust 100% in the others jugdment.

What I mean is: If your team mate says DO something ( atack that DG, engage, run or something like that) you have to do it "NOW" and not even consider if he is right or wrong.

You both can be atacking the "wrong" DG in that fight but if you guys trust each other you have a chance... if you start to change targets or discuss... thats much worst than atack the wrong DG.

I believe that the point of this statement is to coordenate atacks, what makes a player not that good (noob) in this kind of encounter is that is often hard to a new player to know how to help a teamate in a 2v2 or bigger fight.

just one exemple:

you're full health (youre DG is squishy or suport) and 2 DG are coming to double you, your partner comes and engage then to save your ass cos youre not the one suposed to engage first... and then you let him fight both and just run for your life, start atacking the DG your partner is not atacking without a good reason(a lot of good reasons come to mind) or something like that... your partner dies a miserable death... who is the noob?

I know is very hard to do the right thing every time, but some stuff is just wrong.

Teamplay skills are the best skills and the hardest to learn, thats for sure.

This statemant maybe can be better if says something like: If you dont know what to do in a 2v2 or bigger fight.

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I'd say for attacking the "right" demigod you might be better served attacking the same demigod whomever the first teamate is attacking (unless for some reason the guy he isn't attacking has low health). Even if the first person chooses the "wrong" target, you are both likely doomed if you don't try to focus one down. So I'd say a better statement regarding that might be:

Focus enemy demigods with your teamates, try to attack the same target unless there is a compelling reason not to.

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Quoting RobWild,

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Yeah though I've had many games where my partner and I keep trading opponents because we're both trying to do just this!

Happens also with other issues, like what tower to attack or which lane to both go to if we need to leave the current lane. In those situations though we can resolve in chat. During the heat of battle though...

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If you don’t know the primary target in a X Vs X encounter (with X dif than 1): Noob

tipps:

never ever try to focus erebus early game (its just waste of ur dps he will sooner or late bite u anyways)

never ever ever ever ever focus on QoT early/mid when she has her pets (scramblers) and propably mulch(lvl3), she has only selfheal....

this said try to attack the one with lowest health(and propable the lowest armor) in most random customs games, when u have the chance to, focus the reg ^^

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lol, nice nick. Very... dark, if you get what I mean.

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he's right about the XvX encounters, some situations can differentiate players. For instance, when you meet with a sedna + [insert dg here] group ALWAYS target sedna first, otherwise she will just heal back anyone. This is a common mistake even among good players...they just attack the tanks with 6k hp and leave sedna alone.

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This guide means over 99% of people who play this game are noobs

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Quoting Archon Saar,

reply 19

Except... not always hehe. Sometimes a Sedna will have 4500 hit points, healing someone with 2500. She'd have to heal that target at least twice to match her HP total. And if you can interrupt her healing, or just stun her opportunistically, you can often kill a weaker opponent. Also, it can be harder to focus fire on her if she is sitting in the back while her friend is in front.

It really is amazing how many hard combat decisions there are to make in this game. Part of why it is so fun!

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