Except those artists aren't your friends, and they didn't give you permission to grab that beer. Pirate all you want, but it is wrong, and you are stealing...no matter what empty half baked justifications you try to make.
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I heard if you say Derek Smart three times in the same thread he shows up and flames everyone...
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[quote who="Ultroman" reply="18" id="2165488"]There might be people being prosecuted, but its not going to make a difference at all until the right ones are prosecuted. You have to agree with that. No one benefits from piratebay being shut down. There're plenty of sites to fit the bill[/quote] They are the right ones, they broke the law, they pay the price. Just because piracy lives on without them doesn't mean their prosecuation is in vein. There is someting calle
I have seen worse...the guys over at S2Games can be brutal...not just calling someone an idiot, but down right cursing them out lol. I forget the owners name (Maliken I think) but I have seen him on occassion rip into players for acting stupid.
Your second statement is WRONG, and these are clearly laid out as to what is and is not illegal, and does not cause the "wrong people" to get prosecuted. And they did do something wrong, intentionally facilitating piracy is illegal. (intentions are key) You may think whatever you want, but there are clear laws that the pirate bay broke, and now they are paying the price.
This is what I was responding to: "There's no good way of describing what constitutes copyright-enfringement, which is why no country has done it yet." In which I provided EXACTLY what constitutes copyright infringement, and EXACTLY why pirate bay was shut down. And it's not about winning, it's about enforcing the law. Pirate Bay is guilty, and the people who run it are scum and getting exactly what they deserve.
That's fine, but the only "scewed perspective" is pretending 100,000+ pirates jumping on the game day one didn't have a negative effect. I agree with you that they (GPG, Stardock) made major mistakes too, but to ignore this and pretend the theives didn't contribute is flat out intellectual dishonesty.
Isn't Derek Smart the guy who released one of the most bug ridden piles of crap ever on the PC?
Na, he is probably tired of hearing people with absolutely no idea what they are talking about masquerading around like they are experts on the subject. People in the game industry have to take so much crap from their "fans" and how they don't know what they are doing, I am sure it wears thin after a while.
[quote who="nosferat1" reply="7" id="2165208"] Quoting Renevent, reply 2"bottom line, you cant beat pirace, the law is based on material (cars... other crap...)" Uh no, it's called copyright and intellectual property laws. Sorry, you just got all tired typing out a bunch of crap for nothing. More self importance,when you get tired of writing to yourself,please let me know. [b]I will not respond to your provocations,we do not want to
[quote who="Ultroman" reply="9" id="2165226"] Quoting Renevent, reply 4 http://www.copyright.gov/title17/92chap5.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_infringement It has been done lol...and has been around for a long time. The only problem goverment agencies are having is the enforcement of these laws. As I said, horribly done, or they would be easy to prosecute people with[/quote] Oh ok Mr. Lawyer lol. First you said it doesn't
[quote who="Rhah" reply="14" id="2165230"] Without those 100,000+ thieves, day 1 would have been smoother (albiet not perfect, but much better). There is no denying this, and therefore the only conclusion is pirates *did* in fact have a negative effect on the game and potentially attributed to lower review scores. I still rather think by looking at things from all sides. My initial thought still holds true, of if stardock released at a stable multiplayer and didn't th
[quote who="Rhah" reply="12" id="2165185"] I did, and the FACT is over 100,000 pirates trying to connect on day one certainly had a major effect on the situation. Doesn't mean Stardock and GPG are innocent in this, but had there not been 100,000 thieves ripping off the product those issue would not have been anywhere as pronounced. So the following patches after the first patch were not for multiplayer fixes? Is multiplayer fixed now... Why is frogboy talking about limiting connecti
[quote who="Ultroman" reply="3" id="2165155"]I downloaded Demigod from Stardock. Is that theft? And when I had downloaded it, it started copying files from a cd-image. I that piracy? There's no good way of describing what constitutes copyright-enfringement, which is why no country has done it yet. Well, some have, but the laws are articulated poorly and therefore the wrong people are getting prosecuted.[/quote] http://www.copyright.gov/title17/92chap5.html http://en
"bottom line, you cant beat pirace, the law is based on material (cars... other crap...)" Uh no, it's called copyright and intellectual property laws. Sorry, you just got all tired typing out a bunch of crap for nothing.
[quote who="nosferat1" reply="15" id="2164909"] Quoting Renevent, reply 13"i am not some rich spoiled brat like you" Of course you weren't speaking to me, but just thought I'd throw this out there...just because a person can pay for thier games doesn't make them rich spoiled brat. You know...they might actually work and save up money and EARN their money. "Unfortunatelly you prooved to me one thing.Narrowmindedness,unenlightenedness,dimbwitedness will ne
[quote who="Rhah" reply="6" id="2164975"]I still get a huge laugh out the pirates hurt the reviews!! Oh ya it had nothing to do with the state of the game at release or taking 2 patches to fix multiplayer and it still has problems. Now Frogboy is even talking about limiting connecting people by region. Oh ya its the pirates, it has noting to do with the coding or the state of the product.... Think before you speak...[/quote] I did, and the FACT is over 100,000 pirates trying to conne
"i am not some rich spoiled brat like you" Of course you weren't speaking to me, but just thought I'd throw this out there...just because a person can pay for thier games doesn't make them rich spoiled brat. You know...they might actually work and save up money and EARN their money. "Unfortunatelly you prooved to me one thing.Narrowmindedness,unenlightenedness,dimbwitedness will never let you understand my reasons ." I think you just let us on to un
[quote who="clownkill" reply="9" id="2164819"] Quoting Renevent, reply 8What a sad thing to see...I can't believe what I am reading in this thread. Not sad for stardock as it shows that they are getting extra customers. I preordered my copy about 1 week before release. Then I downloaded the pirate version because it came out before the release date. Even though I have paid for the Impulse version I am still playing the pirate ve
[quote who="Aroddo" reply="4" id="2164671"] And personally, I wish they would throw lawsuits at those "14 year olds"...what kind of society are we in where we turn a blind eye to people stealing other people's work? Well, that's your personal choice of the kind of society you wish to live in. I prefer to live in a society not based upon revenge. But then, I'm not american and thus have been indoctrinated with completely different sets of social values.&n
[quote who="jochance" reply="24" id="2164129"]If you knew what you were talking about you might have noted that the case was in Sweden not Switzerland. Ego Fail.[/quote] Did I say what country it was in? No, you did. I just said I read about it and didn't mention a single thing regarding country...lol. The only "fail" is your inability to present a valid argument. Anything else from the peanut gallery? "And the damage they allegedly do is pure fiction
[quote who="jochance" reply="22" id="2164095"]Are you from Switzerland? Have you read anything at all about the case? I'm done with you now. Thanks for playing.[/quote] Haha...right...all your points were shot down in a blazing glory, and now the only retort left for you is retreat. And yeah, I have read all about it...obviously more then you. You know...it's one thing to steal and just say you don't give a damn...it's another thing entirely when those theives
What the hell are you talking about? My comment was regarding drawing parallels to Piratebay and Google, and how intent does matter. Having a nice conversation all in your head I see lol...who's winning? Anyways, just to address your silly point, they did break the law. You don't have to actually distibute the material to break the law...meerly facilitating (with intent [e digicons]:rofl:[/e] ) other people's breach against copyright laws is illegal.