Enraged_Camel

Double snipe - can amount to 2000+ damage, coming from somewhere you can't see Double rooks - 16 towers total, with which you can hold back anything thrown at you Double sednas - Two healers, which means no one dies, ever Double QoT - see above Double oak - not a big deal Double erebus - double bite can be annoying but again, not a big deal Double UB - not too big a deal, but double spit can still be annoying (one after the other, as they dont s

[quote who="Miyamiya" reply="7" id="2297599"]Demigod has a million problems, but at the core it is the best real time strategy game I have ever played.[/quote] It's not a real time strategy game. It's a tactical RPG game. Major problems with the game: - lack of clan support - nothing that really discourages ragequitting (sorry but people wont stay in the game just to get a tiny participation bonus, you have to penalize them for prematurely abandoning the game)<

[quote who="ItchyDustbin" reply="10" id="2297833"] Quoting SoFFacet, reply 8Theres no need to get away when you always win. You win when you get 3vs1'd? Or tele-ganked? [/quote] Look at his record. It's very obvious that he always runs with a premade team. So he probably always has a buddy and probably almost never gets 2v1 or 3v1'd.

[quote who="ItchyDustbin" reply="22" id="2297846"] This means you are open to getting stunned and ganked and burst etc etc, ice TB would only be being hit from ranged attacks.[/quote] You can't get burst if you have 5k health and 50% mitigation. I mean, I see some TBs running around with 2500hp past level 10, so maybe sitting in the circle waiting for people to come to you may be a bad idea for them, but properly played, TB can tank as well as any other character. <p

[quote who="ItchyDustbin" reply="11" id="2297860"] Why would they come near you to get raped if they're minion build?[/quote] They don't really have a choice. Sedna is insanely fast, especially with Swift Anklet. Besides, it's not like they can send the minions and sit at the back to watch. Minions by themselves don't do that much damage, certainly not enough to "rape" a demigod, especially not Sedna with her passive and active healing. To kill Sedna, you need burst damag

Not necessarily, no. Most assassin oaks also have spirits for the passive damage bonus. When I play assassin oak, I send my spirits back to base so they don't keep getting killed. I then run around the map raping everything and everyone.

[quote who="SoFFacet" reply="8" id="2297813"]Theres no need to get away when you always win. [/quote] Well yes, if you always play as a premade team (as you seem to do, with 66 wins and only 9 losses) then I suppose there will be less of a need to run away.

[quote who="wnmnkh" reply="23" id="2291936"]Seriously guys.... Minion builds rape her. she has no AOE other than her yeti with maxxed. Try eb with minion builds. You may weak for first four levels but at level 5 things getting different.[/quote] Actually actually, I love going against minion builds. It almost always means the demigod himself is a lot weaker (because they have bought favor items and regular items to boost minions instead of themselves), and

[quote who="pseudomelon" reply="7" id="2297076"] Quoting Teseer, reply 2TB with Deep Freeze. Rest doesnt matter. I would raise an eyebrow to this if his TB hadn't totally destroyed my sedna.[/quote] If you are dying to ice bearer as Sedna, you are doing something terribly wrong. Possibly incorrect build, maybe in combination with wrong items.

[quote who="SoFFacet" reply="18" id="2296581"] On the contrary, I would argue that the most important ability of melee characters is their ability to run away quickly due to the fact that being in melee makes it harder to open up the distance between you and the enemy should the need arise. This is why I find it extremely easy to ambush melee characters without Swift Anklet for instance - if they don't see me coming from a distance, then it is too late for them. Their 800hp d

[quote who="Zechnophobe" reply="19" id="2297725"]Full fire is *not* viable. Maybe you have won a game when using it, but that is not the same as viable. Fire simply does not have the depth to deal with quality opponents, since all it does is damage. A deep freeze may do a little damage on the surface, but when you negate a 1200 hit point heal with it, or a 4000 hit point potion, or similar, it is worth its weight in gold.[/quote] I have no idea what you're talki

[quote] Amulet of teleportation allows you to move around faster on bigger maps and generals can use cloak of night to catch escaping demigods or flee.[/quote] The huge problem with amulet of teleportation is that it shares a cooldown with teleport scrolls, making it fairly useless overall. It just becomes a replacement for scrolls and allows you to save money (even then I prefer scrolls because their cooldown is shorter). Cloak of night

[quote who="ItchyDustbin" reply="12" id="2296327"] Quoting Enraged_Camel, reply 11Ice is a lot weaker than fire. Ice can auto attack ,chase, interrupt, slow, stun, slow attack speed, has a mana regen aura. Fire can uhh, do damage, a small speed boost aura, and miss auto attacks on targets standing still? Did I mention his main damage spell has a long cast time and a very obvious animation? Take your pick.[/quote] Ice is useful for auto

Barring really exploitative combos like five Heaven's Wrath to focus on a single demigod or something, I do not see why people get anything other than Swift Anklet as favor items. Speed is probably the single most important stat in the game. With it, you are able to chase down enemy demigods, you are able to run away from enemy demigods, and you are able to move around the map faster which means less time traveling and more time doing more important things like capping flags and creep

QoT starts extremely strong early on, and can deny the enemy lots of kills. If the other team does not have a support character (like Sedna, or another QoT), then this is a clear advantage. That said, later in the game she becomes pretty ineffective due to her main buff not scaling with enemy damage. If the game lasts a long time then she becomes a severe liability.

There is no way in hell a minion Oak will win a fight against a non-minion Sedna. Especially if the oak only has 1 point in Penitence.

Ice is a lot weaker than fire.

Sedna is unbeatable 1v1, if players are equally skilled. Especially Ice TB is a joke. As long as you keep yourself topped off with heal rather than wait until the last second (and thus get locked out of healing with a strategic deep freeze), you will eat the TB alive. Fire TB on the other hand is a problem. Still beatable, but far more dangerous than Ice.

That's probably because of global warming.

Flag locks are absolutely brutal. I've played a lot of games where we only had priests, but were able to go into the enemy base in Cataract, lock a side portal, then teleport out. Spend 45 seconds doing other things, then come back, ignore the enemy DG that is no doubt waiting on the flag to cap it, then lock the flag again and port back out. Our team was taking turns doing it, and while the enemy had one or two demigods sitting on the capped flag fending off the creeps coming out of

Currently this item is terribly overpowered. It makes certain demigods virtually unkillable. It really sucks when you blow all your mana and cooldowns on someone and get them to 10% hp, they run and come back 10 secs later with full health. I like the nerf. People will be more dependent on healing and mana potions now, which is nice since those are interruptable.

It's pretty clear that the multiplayer problems are not going to be fixed by any patch, or even a bunch of patches. The main issue is the P2P model. Why not use a client/server model like every other game out there? Demigod is a good game and it has lots of potential, but at this rate it will lose the majority of its playerbase before things get better.

[quote who="Teseer" reply="5" id="2232319"]The cooldown is 30 seconds....[/quote] I thought it was 25 seconds. If it is 30 seconds then increase it to 35 or 40 seconds.

I play TB and I find Oak to be an easy kill. The trick is to make him use his shield early on, and stay out of melee range.

Remove the passive bonuses, increase the cooldown to 30 seconds.