Shadowrun was so much fun for the first 2 months it was released, Especially being a PC player when 75% of the playerbase was on the Xbox.

Agreed fully.  Tbh, they need more player input to be added in the game...and quicker.

They added tons of player input for balance in the day0 patch, and for how some skills fucntion forbefore (mulch got the aoe based on player suggestion, deep freeze rework was a player suggestion it used to be a single target freeze)  Plus some ui stuff.

Not to mention.. remember back when most skills where like 15-45 second recharge?  You would start a fight by dumping your skills then auto attacking.  That was really boring, and they fixed that.  Also mana didn't matter at all, really.  Now mana items vs. skills is considerably better.

Granted, they never did any big things, like the upgrades, and lots of things could be added to the ui like pings and ally portraits/healthbars/focusing.

So they've  definitely been listening, because I know many things are EXACT requests.  They just haven't been able to do everything in the aloted time.  We just have to hope we'll get good content updates.  But yes, SD should of pushed the release back and had a phase4 beta.

Huh?  It doesn't need more.  All more items does is increase the learning curve.

You could add 10 more weapons to qauke 3, but you already have variaty.  You already have your close range gun(shotgun).  You already have your fast firing projectile gun(plasma gun), you have your splash damage gun(rockets), you have your sniper(railgun), your longer range spammy gun(the starting rifle omg forgot the name :/), you have your shooting around corners and defensy gun(grenade launcher).  Really, what does it lack?..  More weapons wouldn't make Q3 better, it'd just mean more to learn and be harder to balance.  It's good with the amount it has.  More isn't always better.

And dota just reduces the variaty with combinations.  It takes 75 items and turns them into 10.  How many times are you going to get ying without getting yang too?  It'd be better really if you started with 24 items, and had upgrades which branched them out where you technically have hundreds, but it seems like less since it's starting with a few and upgrades are focused.

But about 30% of the items really need to be redone from scratch because they're redundant.  they're just worse versions of an item that does the same thing.

It's not nonsense. Players can't play the game. If players can't play, everything else doesn't matter at all. The game will fizzle because Stardock ignored that their game is unplayable in release. Hopefully, they'll learn from this and will never again drop their rule that a released game must be working and without any game-breaking bugs.

To the OP:

See, you're using conditional here: it "might" lose so much steam over nonsense. Truth is, it has. I love the game and have been playing since beta, but in my opinion, there's a very high probability it will never take off as it should have. I read the comments on other game forums, and they're not good. People have paid, can't play, are giving this game a bad grade and are moving on, and they most likely won't come back. Which means it's likely the game will be deserted -and a deserted DotA has lost its selling point, I guess, so this is the recipe for a vicious cycle.

Release is the most critical time in a game's life, and it has been a failure. It is going to be very difficult, if not downright impossible, to recover from such a bad launch, and numerous examples prove this. People are going to go back to DotA. It's not "if it's not corrected, it's going to cost". The cost is already being paid.

Look at the gamespot review. 6.5, for a Stardock game? The game is barrels of fun, they even say that. But they can't play. Do you think this game can still be a best-seller with negative reviews from both customers and major review companies?

I don't want to spit at Starock or anything, because I love all of their games. But there's no point hidding the truth: because of its launch, Demigod has lost its opportunity for becoming serious competition for DotA.

Shadowrun can die in a fire for all I care, they demented a great RPG into a moronic console action shooter, pretty much destroying any hope the franchise has in the future.